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Ramshot true blue

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by area51, Jun 24, 2012.

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  1. area51

    area51 Member

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    I am a real fun of w231 for 9mm/38spcl/45acp.
    Y'all have any experiences with true blue in these loads ?
     
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  2. ArchAngelCD

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    True Blue is a slower powder than W231/HP-38. If you're looking for a Ramshot powder similar to W231 you're looking for Zip. (very similar)
     
  3. area51

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    Is zip Cleaner than 231?
     
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    Zip is a clean powder but cleaner than W231, I don't know because I don't fine W231 to be a dirty powder. You must be loading to very low pressures or using lead bullets with a dirty lube if W231 is producing dirty ammo...
     
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    Win 231 is very "sooty" at competition minor PF velocities (124gr @ 1050fps). It wipes off fairly easily, but is dirty.

    True Blue at these pressures/speeds, will smoke and have muzzle blast like a coal burning locomotive.
     
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    I have a pound but haven't tried it yet.

    True Blue looks to me to be very similar to AA#5, kind of like the HP-38/W231 relationship.
     
  7. Walkalong

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    True Blue is a fine round powder. "Unflattened ball" vs "flattened ball" as it were. It meters superbly. It is one on the least position sensitive powders at low pressure I have tried. I have not loaded it light enough to experience the "muzzle blast like a coal burning locomotive" 1SOW mentioned. I have loaded it at full pressure in 9MM, where it works well, and in .45 Colt, where pressures are fairly low. At both levels it has burned cleanly. I have also tried it in .32 ACP, .38 Spl, 5.7X28, & .40 as well. Overall my impression is positive.

    ZIp is about as close to W-231 as you can get. It is very accurate in low pressure .45 ACP. I have not tried it in 9MM.
     
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    I discovered True Blue during the Great Reloading Component Shortage of 2009. Lots of it was available then because I guess it was not as well known as other powders.

    I use it mostly in 9x19 but also some other cartridges as well. It has become a standard powder in my inventory.

    I agree with all the positive comments already posted.

    I have been told that it is similar to AA#5
     
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