Range report: Fort Benning, GA

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I just got back from four months of Basic Combat Training and Advanced Individual Training at the Infantry school at Fort Benning. I'm now an 11B and I'll soon report to my unit, C co 3/172 INF (MTN) of the New Hampshire National Guard. I thought some of you might be interested to hear about what the Army boys are playing with these days.

M16A4:

This is the rifle issued to most trainees in the Infantry Training Brigade, although it is being phased out as you read this in favor of the M4 Carbine; two of the six companies in my battalion had already switched by the time I left. The M16A4 is identical to the M16A2 except it has a removable carrying handle/rear sight and quad accessory rail handguards by Knight's. Initially during training we used the standard rear sights; after qualification we switched to the Aimpoint M68 red-dot optical device. Additionally, a mount for the "PAK-4" infrared target laser (I never did find out the exact name of that thing) was placed on the top handguard just behind the front sight post.

My rifle was reliable under all conditions, including blank fire, but not every private in my platoon was as lucky. The rifles we were using were nearing the end of their service lives even though they were only five years old. We shot the heck out of those things, however, so it's not surprising they're wearing out so quickly. My only gripe with the A4 was the fixed buttstock which made firing with Interceptor Body Armor difficult, especially with the ceramic plates inserted. Obviously the telescoping stock remedies this, so it's no surprise the M4 is becoming so popular.

M203:

We received one day of training on the M203 40mm grenade launcher, firing practice rounds. The best two privates that day got to fire five live rounds each. I didn't like the weapon system at all; I found it difficult and awkward to use. Hopefully I'll get more training with it once I get to my unit.

M249/M240B:

During Basic we received one day of live-fire training with the M249 5.56mm Squad Automatic Weapon and the M240B 7.62mm General Purpose Machine Gun, and then during AIT we got eight SAWs and two Bravos per platoon. I eminently preferred the SAW to the Bravo for obvious reasons even though the Bravo was much more fun to fire with blanks. I found both easy to use during live fire and as you might guess it is incredible fun to knock down targets with them.

M2:

We received one day of live-fire training with the M2 .50 Machine Gun. I found this weapon easy to shoot, but since it was simply mounted on a tripod it was impossible to get a feel for the weapon. All we had for targets were several old M113 Armored Personnel Carriers out at 300 meters, so we couldn't get a sense for the damage we were doing.

Mk 19:

We only received familiarization with the Mk 19 40mm grenade launcher, which was disappointing. It sure looked like fun, though.

M67:

We received one day of training for the M67 fragmentation grenade. We used practice grenades all day, then each soldier threw two live grenades. I discovered I'm terrible at throwing and I just barely qualified that day. If you're ever in charge of handing out frags, don't give me any yet. I plan on purchasing some dummies as soon as possible as I desperately need the practice.

AT-4:

We received one day of training on the AT-4 anti-tank rocket and launcher. This was a fun day as we fired many 9mm tracer training rounds at M113 APCs. The best private at the end of the day fired one live rocket, which was one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in my life.

M18A1:

We trained with the M18A1 Claymore mine quite a bit, but we only saw one live mine actually detonated. They're a pain in the rear to set up but absolutely brutal on the target.

So, who else wants to join the Army? :D
 
thanks

Thanks for the report. Thanks for serving your country. May God be with you, and bring you home safe and whole, from wherever you may be sent.
 
Thank you for serving our country.

And thanks for the report.
 
Thanks for volunteering to serve.

I went through Sand Hill in 1996.

The "PAK-4" is the AN/PAQ-4, infrared targeting laser. If'n you like it, you'll love the AN/PEQ-2...
 
If you get an M4:

The M4 works great with the IBA when the stock is taken down
a notch. If you're not wearing it, take it to full extension. Your
Zero should be very close both ways.

See you in the sandbox.
 
So, who else wants to join the Army?
Ohh, ohh, I do, I do!!!

Wait a minute, I'm a staff sergeant with nine years in... never mind. :neener:

Nice to see they upgraded the weapons. When I went through Sill in '96, we had M16A2s (which was the standard weapon at the time) instead of A4s, and M60s (which was most definitely not the standard machine gun at the time :cuss: ) instead of SAWs. Never used a 240 back then, but I haven't used one since, so I don't mind that much.
 
Man, the memories! I went through Ft. Benning in 1977!! :eek:

Some major advancements have been made: I qualified with an M16A1, the M60 GMPG, good old Ma Deuce (some things never change!) and the M203 grenade launcher.

The arms room in my first unit (B 1/31st IN (M), Camp Casey/Howze, ROK) STILL HAD SOME M79'S!!! We also had access to M14's, which were issued to the Korean guards.

Ft. Benning was a blast for me--hope it was the same for you! Thanks for your service--be careful and come home in one piece. Godspeed!
 
Thanks for your service and report.

When I went through Benning in '96 we had M16A2's. Mine was 100% reliable, except with blanks. I found/find the A2 stock to be too long even with normal clothing, which is why I have an M4gery.

I liked the M203, but even though I was a lefty, I was only allowed to fire it right-handed. Talk about awkward. I'm sure I would have done much better firing it left-handed.

I loved the M249, but we had M60's instead of M240's. And again, I was only allowed to fire the M60 right-handed. I'm sure I would have done much better firing it left-handed. Even though I was a Squad Leader, I bugged my Drill Sergeants enough they let me carry the M249 on our final FTX.

Unlike you, we had zero training on the M2 and Mk 19.

I was pretty decent with dummy grenades and was completely jazzed about getting to chuck two live ones.

As the AT-4 is a righty only weapon, I found it best not to give me one but did have fun firing the 9mm training version.

Claymores? A real PITA to deploy but talk about effective!!!

Did I mention that I broke two M16's on the Rifle Bayonet Course? Try explaining that one to your Drill Sergeant! "Guess I got too aggresive, Drill Sergeant!" "Grab another one, Private, and go back through." :D

B Co 1/50
 
Ft. Jackson winter 1989/1990, though I wasn't going Infantry.

Back then we got either M16A2s or M16A1s, I had an A1. It was my first time ever shooting a gun and I loved it, qualified Sharpshooter and almost made Expert.

We also qualified with the grenades, yeah throwing those things isn't as easy as they make it look in the movies. Even if you are used to baseballs, the shape and weight throw things off a bit.

We only got to play with dummie claymores.

We got to play with, once:
-The M203. Didn't like it, almost no one could be accurate with it in the short time we had with it.
-The LAW, practice rounds only. I wish we got to shoot one or two real ones, but being they were one use weapons I guess the Army didn't want to waste them on BCT.
-The M60, a bit of an adreneline rush, but I wasn't really impressed.
 
How Many

How many rounds did you fire thru your M16 in total?

At Ft. Benning (Harmony Church) in 1968 we used M14 rifles that dated to about 1955. Still worked fine after around 10 years of use.

At Ranger School some M16s were available... but not well liked at all.

Thanks

Chuck
 
welcome to the club from a fellow 11B

I went through Sand Hill in 2002 and then went down the road to Kelly Hill.

I must say that once you get to your unit ( and Iraq ) and get to use the 240 more, you will love it. It is the most reliable weapon we got, shoots very fast ( gas regulator on 3 ), and does a lot more damage than the SAW.

I was a SAW gunner the first time I was here and I have a certain love for the gun, but Ive been a 240 gunner for about two years now and it is by far a superior weapon. I prefer it to the .50 because of controllability for shots at individuals at range.

When the AKs start firing, theres nothing like 950 rpm of 7.62. :evil:

Good luck and have fun!
 
Hooah!

I am getting called back up right now, I will bein Ft. Benning on Oct. 2nd.

I originally went through in 2000, and we had M16A2s, and some A4s... Then I went to the Old Guard, where we had A2s.

I never got to play with the .50 cal in basic, but had training on it at the unit. I'm jazzed that they're finally doing some training with the M4s, and did I read right that you trained with the interceptor armor? Goddamn... it's about time.

Thanks for the post! Reading it got me all pumped up for my upcoming adventure. Hell... I might just stay the hell in! :evil:

James
 
What was the problem with the 203? Being under the barrel makes it a little awkward, but it's almost like having a direct line to your own mobile mortar squad. I could actually hit pretty good with the things.

Don't practice with grenades. Practice with footballs. Do not throw Mr. Grenade like a baseball. That won't work. Throw him like a football. Trust me.

(scored expert with grenades in basic)
 
11B, B/9/2, Harmony Church, 1985

I heard a rumor that the Harmony Church area is no longer used for Basic.
Living in WWII era baracks in January toughened one up. Went straight to jump school afterward. Jump school seemed like a vacation.

Anyway,
We received one day of training on the M203 40mm grenade launcher, firing practice rounds. The best two privates that day got to fire five live rounds each. I didn't like the weapon system at all; I found it difficult and awkward to use. Hopefully I'll get more training with it once I get to my unit.
It works better if you keep your right hand on the pistol grip of the rifle, brace your right elbow on your right knee, and use your left hand to fire the 203.
 
Harmony Church is now used for mobilization/demobilization, along the the Camp Rogers portion of Ranger School. All 11-series basic training is done on Sand Hill.
 
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