Range Report: The all new Ruger LCR Ricochet!!

[Merle1]

Yes, with a taper crimp. It's discussed here and everywhere else all the time. It's very easy to deform a jacketed bullet with a taper crimp.

We aren't talking about factory brass we are talking about reloading brass that's been fired. No one is going to anneal 9mm brass. The annealing process at the factory is only for manufacturing purposes. It occurs midway through the draw process to keep the brass from cracking.

You are right that without proper tension you won't get a proper crimp, but taper crimp doesn't serve the purpose of holding a bullet in place.

Then just what does it do?

 

[ljnowell]

Then just what does it do?

A taper crimp removed the flare on the case and aids in proper feeding in a semi automatic firearm.

 

[Merle1]

A taper crimp removed the flare on the case and aids in proper feeding in a semi automatic firearm.

OK, thanks. I always thought that it did help with bullet tension. Guess I must have remembered it wrong from the reloading manuals.....

 

[Vern Humphrey]

taper crimp doesn't serve the purpose of holding a bullet in place.

Yes it does.

A taper crimp serves two purposes -- to iron out the flair which facilitated seating the bullet, and to add tension to keep the bullet in place.

A lot of people will run factory carry ammo through a taper crimp die and add a little pressure, to keep bullets from being pushed back into the case when repeatedly chambering and re-chambering them.

 

[MICHAEL T]

This is a Ruger training Aid. When shooting in self defense suppose to move off the X you didn't and got hit. That Ruger training you to shoot and move

 

[ljnowell]

Yes it does.



A taper crimp serves two purposes -- to iron out the flair which facilitated seating the bullet, and to add tension to keep the bullet in place.



A lot of people will run factory carry ammo through a taper crimp die and add a little pressure, to keep bullets from being pushed back into the case when repeatedly chambering and re-chambering them.

Taper crimping isn't doing anything to hold a bullet in place. You would have to crimp hard enough to deform a bullet for it to do that. If you did crimp it that hard it could actually cause you to lose tension.

 

[ljnowell]

OK, thanks. I always thought that it did help with bullet tension. Guess I must have remembered it wrong from the reloading manuals.....

I've seen it claimed in manuals too, your memory isn't failing you, it's spot on. Manuals also claim tumbling live ammo can cause guns to blow up. We know that's been proven false over and over again.

Common sense alone when you think about tells you that in order for a taper crimp to increase tension it would have to crimp into the bullet and deform it.

Doing that can actually reduce neck tension.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

Taper crimping isn't doing anything to hold a bullet in place. You would have to crimp hard enough to deform a bullet for it to do that. If you did crimp it that hard it could actually cause you to lose tension.

And yet running factory ammo through a taper crimp die is proven to reduce bullet setback resulting from repeatedly chambering a cartridge.

I've used it myself, and can tell you a bit more taper crimp solves the problem.

 

[Shaq]

The more expensive 9mm ammo uses asphalt to prevent bullet movement. From the photo, it looks like there is only a taper crimp on the ammo; insufficient for a light revolver. I'm in the market for an LCR but in 38 Spl.

It's true that the 9mm wasn't meant for a revolver, but Ruger would be aware of that before offering it.