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Ranges and banning steel cased ammo

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by xwingband, Feb 15, 2013.

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  1. deadin

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    On those ranges that forbid you picking up your own brass, the usual excuse is they don't want people crawling around ahead of the firing line or other shooters looking for their brass. (It's either a safety issue or can cause time delays during ceasefires.) A good way to test this reasoning is to bring your own "brass catcher" net and see if they will allow it. If not, they're selling brass.......
     
  2. Ehtereon11B

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    Depends. The range I went to didn't allow brass pickup but they had a short wall underneath the booth to keep most ejected brass from entering the firing area. The rule there is "if it hits the floor, it belongs to the range." So I was allowed to use a brass catcher or slowly eject a round with revolver/bolt/lever guns. The ammo they sell at the range that is the only stuff they allow shooters to use looks reloaded. Easy way to around that is to put your ammo in the same boxes they use and say it is theirs.
     
  3. TheDaywalkersDad

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    http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

    After reading their test results, I'm not too sure about it not hurting your bore once your round count starts getting up there.
     
  4. Koreth

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    When I went to my local range I saw the sign forbidding steel ammo. When I asked about it I was told such was their policy because their backstops are made of steel, steel ammo would damage their back stops.

    Makes sense to me.
     
  5. JohnBT

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    "Bi-metal jacketed bullets... there is a little steel in the jacket of the bullet."

    I have a bunch of Swiss made 9mm (RUAG made Geco) that came highly recommended for my Sig P210. Here's the lab report that somebody paid for, but not me:

    "Results

    Jacket wt.-18.32grains
    Core wt.-105.422grains

    Jacket
    4.83% Cu (plating)
    94.6% Fe
    .63% traces of Zn, Pb, Bi, Ni, Cr, Al

    Core
    98.65% Pb
    1.3% Cu
    <.05% Al, Fe, Bi, Zn

    Samples run on ICP-OES in aqueous acid solution (digestion), 10% Aqua Regia by volume.

    Yes, 95% Iron jacket (not steel) with a 5% copper plating. Core is lead."

    I suppose that .63% of trace material makes the 94.6% iron content into steel, but it's very, very soft when you cut it. :)
     
  6. ilbob

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    most range ammo restrictions are for the following reasons:

    1. protecting the backstop
    2. reduction of fire risk for outdoor (steel bullets spark sometimes when it hits rocks)
    3. insurance rules

    My guess is that you are running into one or more of these, or a misunderstanding of them by the range.

    I have also run into ranges that do not allow hand loads, for various reasons. One range said it was they were worried about the safety of the reloaded ammo. Another told me it was to encourage shooters to buy their reloads at the range.
     
  7. Certaindeaf

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    They probably like the ten cents a bounce, at least.
     
  8. justice06rr

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    I generally try to go to ranges that accept steel-cased and steel-core ammo, but sometimes I would go to one of the ranges that don't since its closer and cheaper.

    For the most part, its an inconvenience for a range not to allow steel-cased for whatever reason. But that also means they are losing business to people who have steel-cased/core ammo
     
  9. Queen_of_Thunder

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    What fool shoots tracer rounds indoors.
     
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