I forget which section I posted the original post on, bjut here is DR faria's response to his reader's responses...
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Helen Faria <[email protected]> [Add to Address Book] Flag Message | Mark Unread
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Subject: Readers Respond to "A Nation of Thieves" in WND
Date: Oct 20, 2003 11:56 AM
Gentle Readers,
Because I have received an overwhelming number of responses to my WorldNetDaily.com article, "A Nation of Thieves"---drawing some parallels between thievery in England and the culture of thieves in the former Soviet Union and labor camps of Solzhenitsyn¹s The Gulag Archipelago---I have decided to broadcast some of the replies. Out of dozens of responses so far, I have only had one negative response, which I am including in part (too long).
I¹m sorry I wasn¹t able to include all of the responses.
Miguel A. Faria Jr., M.D.
Editor emeritus of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, formerly Medical Sentinel of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
Author of "Vandals at the Gates of Medicine," "Medical Warrior: Fighting Corporate Socialized Medicine," and "Cuba in Revolution _ Escape From a Lost Paradise"
Web site: http://www.haciendapub.com
P.S. For what can happen when authoritarianism and gun control are mixed creating totalitarianism and tyranny, see my latest book, Cuba in Revolution---Escape From a Lost Paradise (2002).
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"If an armed robber breaks into your home in the middle of the night, you can bash him in the head with a baseball bat, you can shoot him between the eyes, or, if time permits, you can call 9-1-1 and have the police bash, shoot or arrest him. It is your God-given right and moral duty to protect your family and property.
"But what recourse do you have if a thief has hired a government agent to rob your family? What do you do, for example, if a wealthy, blue-haired elderly neighbor asks the government to take money from your kid for her medicine, as the AARP crowd does through Medicare, a program that depends on intergenerational theft? If you use force to stop the neighbor, the government will throw you in jail. Similarly, the government will throw you in jail if you use force against the government agent.
"In both cases, the local media will portray you as the criminal instead of the true miscreants. And if you speak out against such theft, as I am doing now, the media will portray you as an extremist and portray the thieves as moderates or progressives. Morality has been turned on its xhead."
Craig J. Cantoni
Founder, Honest Americans Against Legal Theft (HAALT)
"Gun control, in Jolly Olde. . . . Yeah. . . it's scary. But neither in our Constitution, nor local law, is the right of self defense prohibited. My little Smith and Wesson is a happy companion."
KngpstBlu
Thank God for that!
MAF
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"I just wanted to drop you a note to say I enjoyed your article A nation of thieves.¹ My sister-in-law and her husband own a restaurant in London. They recently received a visit from Triad members demanding protection money and threatening violence.
"When they went to the police, the police said that there was nothing that they could do.
"If the police cannot protect the citizens, the citizens should be allowed to protect themselves."
Thanks,
Rob Hammar
British disarmament of law-abiding citizens is really an injustice that needs correcting before thugs of all strips take over that nation. Moreover, gun control promotes authoritarianism and loss of freedom as I have demonstrated in my book, Cuba in Revolution---Escape From a Lost Paradise (2002; www.haciendapub.com).
MAF
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"A very good article. Of course if you look at it from government's perspective, you will see why they don't want people to have the right to self-defense---especially against thieves.
"Socialism is, after all, a government based on theft. At best, a socialist government can be described as a sort of Robin Hood. It takes (steals) from the rich and gives to the poor. In practice, socialist governments merely steal. Since the entire structure of socialism is based on theft, is it any wonder that thieves are a protected class?"
Sincerely,
Corbett Coburn
As Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn has revealed, in the gulag thieves stole from those weaker than themselves. There were no Robin Hoods in the gulags or in England for that matter, despite the legend of Sherwood Forest.
It is single women, the elderly and the infirm who suffer the most from gun control laws as defenseless victims.
MAF
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"I am shocked and easily see your point.
"But with the liberal extremes knocking at the judicial fortress of common sense, we are in real trouble.
"It appears it is more and more difficult for criminals to know that what they do has a cost. At most, to the criminal mind, the light sentences, or shall I say the reduced sentences, or shall I say good behavior clause, or should I say the prisoners rights clause, the prisoners right to vote clause, the prisoners right to bog down our judicial system clause, the prisoners right to conjugal visits clause, to television clause, to be on MTV clause, appears nothing more than an inconvenience and another medal of honor for his fellow law breaking friends.
"Sorry for the ramble but this country is losing sight of the common sense clause."
Thanks for the info,
Dave G.
A topsy-turvy world indeed!
MAF
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"I fear that what has happened in Britain will soon be a reality here in the U.S.A. The gun-haters are attacking on many fronts and most of our pols are sympathetic to their cause. They lost a friend in Bill Clinton but they still have Senators Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Chuck Schumer,...etc. A loud cry has to go up and it should be if you (pols) don't enforce our Bill of Rights (our Second Amendment) then get out of office now. See below for what we can do to make this happen.
"Taking the Offensive
"(1) Make jury nullification synonymous with gun laws. All these gun laws are unconstitutional.
"(2) Buy the video documentary Innocents Betrayed.¹ It annihilates the gun-haters arguments. ---link: http://www.jpfo.org/ib-orders.htm.
"(3) Support Silveira v. Lockyer¹ a gun lawsuit headed for the US Supreme Court." ---link: http://keepandbeararms.com/Silveira/TenReasons.asp
Live free or die,
Robert Lewis
Hermitage, PA
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"That is an awesome article on the effects of gun control. This article needs to be diseminated to the media and the population at large. My fear though is that people will only see what they want to see in this... they will say that we are different today because we are a civilized culture¹ or this is only for our good---the big brother police state government will protect us---which is what they want---more federal spending and expanding the police forces to keep everyone in line.
"I think what is going on is that the socialist/Marxist infiltration has gotten so deep into the institutions, that they have manipulated the people to think that gun confiscation is actually a good thing---we will wind up disarming ourselves because we have become their useful idiots for them---how absurd. Then after the socialists have taken over the culture and society will then be turned over to the next phase called Communism and tyranny.
"Only by the grace of God will we be saved from this."
God Bless in Jesus
Arnie Fishman
A disarmed population is a slave population easily herded to the extermination camps at the discretion of the dictatorship. One only has to read books such as Lethal Laws, The Black Book of Communism, The Gulag Archipelago, and even my own book Cuba in Revolution---Escape From a Lost Paradise (2002; www.haciendapub.com) to discern this truth.
MAF
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Excellent stuff!
Andre Gous
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"I really liked your article. As a person who was born and raised in the USSR, I am quite familiar with what you said.
"I think a few things could be added to your article:
"a) Stalin himself was somewhat a criminal prior to communist putsch in 1917.
"b) In Russia, even before the putsch, the public opinion of so-called intellectuals was supporting the poor¹ criminals. They were considered victims¹ of unjust¹ capitalist society. In fact, it could be
an interesting research to see how the views of today's Western
intellectuals parallel the views of Russian intellectuals prior to the putsch.
"c) Since left-wingers consider private property as stolen from proletariat, it comes at no surprise that they have no trouble with criminals stealing from the middle class. I think it was either Marx or Lenin, who said Expropriation from expropriators.¹ And, logically, it makes perfect sense that those left-wingers consider the criminals to be socially-close.¹ I mean, ideologically, they are close."
Sincerely,
Alexander Uan-Zo-li
Blacksburg, VA
Stalin was not only a criminal but an informant for the Okhrana in his days as revolutionary before the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, according to KGB General Alexander Orlov. And yes, criminals know one another.
MAF
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"I read your column today in WND. I was confused about the line that I quote below:
"¹American women, especially, have the right to defend themselves with firearms to prevent being raped or murdered by sexual predators.¹
"Women especially¹ have a right...? What is special about women that would give them a right especially.¹ Is this intended to mean that they are more deserving or entitled to some otherwise recognized right? Or is it intended to mean that they are deserving of some right not enjoyed by others? I can't imagine any sense of using the word especially¹ in this context that makes any sense.
It reminds me of a current TV police/law show that has the title Special Victims Unit.¹ I keep wondering what constitutes a special¹ victim. If I were victimized, would I be special too? This is dangerous and sloppy thinking."
John Flaherty
The word "especially" was used after careful consideration. In many states in the South, where I live, women are given legally more discretion than men on the use of lethal force to repel an aggressor in situations justifying self-defense.
MAF
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"Thanks for the message. Same old, same old; there as is here, the criminal becomes the victim!"
David J. Frolich
Georgia
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"Kudos! I have also read Gulag Archipelago¹ and noticed, and quoted, the very same excerpts you have on guns and the rights of people to self-defense. One reason I left California was the exact same laws, which made me a criminal when I lived in the slums of Long Beach. I was more afraid of the police than criminals, since I refused to be disarmed when in public. Thank you for the article. I now live in Washington State, which recognizes my right to keep and bear arms."
Dan Chavez, Washington State
Good for you!
MAF
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Sir,
"I am appalled that a doctor, and a citizen of a so-called ally, could stoop so low
"The case launched against Tony Martin by the felon was dropped when Tony Martin threatened a counter-suit. By the way, he lives on a farm---not a ranch!
"The last thing we need is a bunch of panicky citizens shooting anyone who upsets them. Nor do we need an armed police force. It will no doubt surprise you to know that the police were formed as a non-lethal body after the Army had run amok and killed innocent women and children as well as innocent men. Look it up on the Internet.
"The killing sprees of Hungerford and Dunblane, which resulted in our stringent gun-control laws becoming even more stringent, were caused by gun-club members using legally held firearms.
"Most domestic killings in the US are committed with legally held firearms.
"You Yanks are too quick to shoot. That's why more Brits died from US fire in the Gulf wars than from enemy fire!
"As a doctor, you should know that bullet wounds are not like in the films. They are far more serious."
G. Ian Goodson
Birmingham, England
Sir,
Despite your evident wounded national pride, the truth is the truth and needs to be told. A compassionate physician must also be honest and the truth is that gun laws in Great Britain have reached tyrannical proportions. A dropped lawsuit, a farm or a ranch, what is the difference? The major points are all true. Violent crime in the U.S. has reached an all time 30-year low, despite a record number of firearms in the country. The States in the U.S. that have implemented the most reasonable gun control laws and allow citizens to carry concealed firearms for self-protection have the lowest crime rates---they have not experienced "a bunch of panicky citizens shooting anyone who upsets them." I believe that you and many of your fellow British citizens have a phobia about guns that in this uncertain world of thievery, crime, and terrorism may need medical treatment. Homeland security should include every law-abiding citizen having the right to own a gun for home, self, and family protection.
And yes, criticizing Great Britain, the land of Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher, as well as Sir Edward Coke, John Locke, and William Blackstone, for me at least is not pleasant---injustices, though, need to be exposed with the light of day to curtail them.
Sincerely,
MAF
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"I would term the people of Great Britain....VICTIMS.
"But, they brought this horrible state of affairs on themselves, and they, alone, CAN change it. When the carnage becomes too blatant....or when one of the UPPER CLASS is the victim, maybe they will re-think this situation."
Joann, Alaska
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"I found your article A Nation of Thieves¹ to be brilliant. Your analogy was excellent and right on target. Please keep up the good work."
Regards
Dave Pike
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"Thank you, Dr. Faria, for an excellent article."
Frank J. Brady
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"Wonderful column!"
Dan Orr II
Las Vegas, NV
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Thanks to all of the above!
MAF
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Helen Faria <[email protected]> [Add to Address Book] Flag Message | Mark Unread
To: Recipients <[email protected]>
Subject: Readers Respond to "A Nation of Thieves" in WND
Date: Oct 20, 2003 11:56 AM
Gentle Readers,
Because I have received an overwhelming number of responses to my WorldNetDaily.com article, "A Nation of Thieves"---drawing some parallels between thievery in England and the culture of thieves in the former Soviet Union and labor camps of Solzhenitsyn¹s The Gulag Archipelago---I have decided to broadcast some of the replies. Out of dozens of responses so far, I have only had one negative response, which I am including in part (too long).
I¹m sorry I wasn¹t able to include all of the responses.
Miguel A. Faria Jr., M.D.
Editor emeritus of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, formerly Medical Sentinel of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
Author of "Vandals at the Gates of Medicine," "Medical Warrior: Fighting Corporate Socialized Medicine," and "Cuba in Revolution _ Escape From a Lost Paradise"
Web site: http://www.haciendapub.com
P.S. For what can happen when authoritarianism and gun control are mixed creating totalitarianism and tyranny, see my latest book, Cuba in Revolution---Escape From a Lost Paradise (2002).
-----------
"If an armed robber breaks into your home in the middle of the night, you can bash him in the head with a baseball bat, you can shoot him between the eyes, or, if time permits, you can call 9-1-1 and have the police bash, shoot or arrest him. It is your God-given right and moral duty to protect your family and property.
"But what recourse do you have if a thief has hired a government agent to rob your family? What do you do, for example, if a wealthy, blue-haired elderly neighbor asks the government to take money from your kid for her medicine, as the AARP crowd does through Medicare, a program that depends on intergenerational theft? If you use force to stop the neighbor, the government will throw you in jail. Similarly, the government will throw you in jail if you use force against the government agent.
"In both cases, the local media will portray you as the criminal instead of the true miscreants. And if you speak out against such theft, as I am doing now, the media will portray you as an extremist and portray the thieves as moderates or progressives. Morality has been turned on its xhead."
Craig J. Cantoni
Founder, Honest Americans Against Legal Theft (HAALT)
"Gun control, in Jolly Olde. . . . Yeah. . . it's scary. But neither in our Constitution, nor local law, is the right of self defense prohibited. My little Smith and Wesson is a happy companion."
KngpstBlu
Thank God for that!
MAF
-----------------
"I just wanted to drop you a note to say I enjoyed your article A nation of thieves.¹ My sister-in-law and her husband own a restaurant in London. They recently received a visit from Triad members demanding protection money and threatening violence.
"When they went to the police, the police said that there was nothing that they could do.
"If the police cannot protect the citizens, the citizens should be allowed to protect themselves."
Thanks,
Rob Hammar
British disarmament of law-abiding citizens is really an injustice that needs correcting before thugs of all strips take over that nation. Moreover, gun control promotes authoritarianism and loss of freedom as I have demonstrated in my book, Cuba in Revolution---Escape From a Lost Paradise (2002; www.haciendapub.com).
MAF
---------------
"A very good article. Of course if you look at it from government's perspective, you will see why they don't want people to have the right to self-defense---especially against thieves.
"Socialism is, after all, a government based on theft. At best, a socialist government can be described as a sort of Robin Hood. It takes (steals) from the rich and gives to the poor. In practice, socialist governments merely steal. Since the entire structure of socialism is based on theft, is it any wonder that thieves are a protected class?"
Sincerely,
Corbett Coburn
As Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn has revealed, in the gulag thieves stole from those weaker than themselves. There were no Robin Hoods in the gulags or in England for that matter, despite the legend of Sherwood Forest.
It is single women, the elderly and the infirm who suffer the most from gun control laws as defenseless victims.
MAF
---------------
"I am shocked and easily see your point.
"But with the liberal extremes knocking at the judicial fortress of common sense, we are in real trouble.
"It appears it is more and more difficult for criminals to know that what they do has a cost. At most, to the criminal mind, the light sentences, or shall I say the reduced sentences, or shall I say good behavior clause, or should I say the prisoners rights clause, the prisoners right to vote clause, the prisoners right to bog down our judicial system clause, the prisoners right to conjugal visits clause, to television clause, to be on MTV clause, appears nothing more than an inconvenience and another medal of honor for his fellow law breaking friends.
"Sorry for the ramble but this country is losing sight of the common sense clause."
Thanks for the info,
Dave G.
A topsy-turvy world indeed!
MAF
----------------
"I fear that what has happened in Britain will soon be a reality here in the U.S.A. The gun-haters are attacking on many fronts and most of our pols are sympathetic to their cause. They lost a friend in Bill Clinton but they still have Senators Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Chuck Schumer,...etc. A loud cry has to go up and it should be if you (pols) don't enforce our Bill of Rights (our Second Amendment) then get out of office now. See below for what we can do to make this happen.
"Taking the Offensive
"(1) Make jury nullification synonymous with gun laws. All these gun laws are unconstitutional.
"(2) Buy the video documentary Innocents Betrayed.¹ It annihilates the gun-haters arguments. ---link: http://www.jpfo.org/ib-orders.htm.
"(3) Support Silveira v. Lockyer¹ a gun lawsuit headed for the US Supreme Court." ---link: http://keepandbeararms.com/Silveira/TenReasons.asp
Live free or die,
Robert Lewis
Hermitage, PA
--------------
"That is an awesome article on the effects of gun control. This article needs to be diseminated to the media and the population at large. My fear though is that people will only see what they want to see in this... they will say that we are different today because we are a civilized culture¹ or this is only for our good---the big brother police state government will protect us---which is what they want---more federal spending and expanding the police forces to keep everyone in line.
"I think what is going on is that the socialist/Marxist infiltration has gotten so deep into the institutions, that they have manipulated the people to think that gun confiscation is actually a good thing---we will wind up disarming ourselves because we have become their useful idiots for them---how absurd. Then after the socialists have taken over the culture and society will then be turned over to the next phase called Communism and tyranny.
"Only by the grace of God will we be saved from this."
God Bless in Jesus
Arnie Fishman
A disarmed population is a slave population easily herded to the extermination camps at the discretion of the dictatorship. One only has to read books such as Lethal Laws, The Black Book of Communism, The Gulag Archipelago, and even my own book Cuba in Revolution---Escape From a Lost Paradise (2002; www.haciendapub.com) to discern this truth.
MAF
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Excellent stuff!
Andre Gous
----------------
"I really liked your article. As a person who was born and raised in the USSR, I am quite familiar with what you said.
"I think a few things could be added to your article:
"a) Stalin himself was somewhat a criminal prior to communist putsch in 1917.
"b) In Russia, even before the putsch, the public opinion of so-called intellectuals was supporting the poor¹ criminals. They were considered victims¹ of unjust¹ capitalist society. In fact, it could be
an interesting research to see how the views of today's Western
intellectuals parallel the views of Russian intellectuals prior to the putsch.
"c) Since left-wingers consider private property as stolen from proletariat, it comes at no surprise that they have no trouble with criminals stealing from the middle class. I think it was either Marx or Lenin, who said Expropriation from expropriators.¹ And, logically, it makes perfect sense that those left-wingers consider the criminals to be socially-close.¹ I mean, ideologically, they are close."
Sincerely,
Alexander Uan-Zo-li
Blacksburg, VA
Stalin was not only a criminal but an informant for the Okhrana in his days as revolutionary before the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, according to KGB General Alexander Orlov. And yes, criminals know one another.
MAF
-----------------
"I read your column today in WND. I was confused about the line that I quote below:
"¹American women, especially, have the right to defend themselves with firearms to prevent being raped or murdered by sexual predators.¹
"Women especially¹ have a right...? What is special about women that would give them a right especially.¹ Is this intended to mean that they are more deserving or entitled to some otherwise recognized right? Or is it intended to mean that they are deserving of some right not enjoyed by others? I can't imagine any sense of using the word especially¹ in this context that makes any sense.
It reminds me of a current TV police/law show that has the title Special Victims Unit.¹ I keep wondering what constitutes a special¹ victim. If I were victimized, would I be special too? This is dangerous and sloppy thinking."
John Flaherty
The word "especially" was used after careful consideration. In many states in the South, where I live, women are given legally more discretion than men on the use of lethal force to repel an aggressor in situations justifying self-defense.
MAF
-----------------
"Thanks for the message. Same old, same old; there as is here, the criminal becomes the victim!"
David J. Frolich
Georgia
--------------------
"Kudos! I have also read Gulag Archipelago¹ and noticed, and quoted, the very same excerpts you have on guns and the rights of people to self-defense. One reason I left California was the exact same laws, which made me a criminal when I lived in the slums of Long Beach. I was more afraid of the police than criminals, since I refused to be disarmed when in public. Thank you for the article. I now live in Washington State, which recognizes my right to keep and bear arms."
Dan Chavez, Washington State
Good for you!
MAF
----------------------
Sir,
"I am appalled that a doctor, and a citizen of a so-called ally, could stoop so low
"The case launched against Tony Martin by the felon was dropped when Tony Martin threatened a counter-suit. By the way, he lives on a farm---not a ranch!
"The last thing we need is a bunch of panicky citizens shooting anyone who upsets them. Nor do we need an armed police force. It will no doubt surprise you to know that the police were formed as a non-lethal body after the Army had run amok and killed innocent women and children as well as innocent men. Look it up on the Internet.
"The killing sprees of Hungerford and Dunblane, which resulted in our stringent gun-control laws becoming even more stringent, were caused by gun-club members using legally held firearms.
"Most domestic killings in the US are committed with legally held firearms.
"You Yanks are too quick to shoot. That's why more Brits died from US fire in the Gulf wars than from enemy fire!
"As a doctor, you should know that bullet wounds are not like in the films. They are far more serious."
G. Ian Goodson
Birmingham, England
Sir,
Despite your evident wounded national pride, the truth is the truth and needs to be told. A compassionate physician must also be honest and the truth is that gun laws in Great Britain have reached tyrannical proportions. A dropped lawsuit, a farm or a ranch, what is the difference? The major points are all true. Violent crime in the U.S. has reached an all time 30-year low, despite a record number of firearms in the country. The States in the U.S. that have implemented the most reasonable gun control laws and allow citizens to carry concealed firearms for self-protection have the lowest crime rates---they have not experienced "a bunch of panicky citizens shooting anyone who upsets them." I believe that you and many of your fellow British citizens have a phobia about guns that in this uncertain world of thievery, crime, and terrorism may need medical treatment. Homeland security should include every law-abiding citizen having the right to own a gun for home, self, and family protection.
And yes, criticizing Great Britain, the land of Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher, as well as Sir Edward Coke, John Locke, and William Blackstone, for me at least is not pleasant---injustices, though, need to be exposed with the light of day to curtail them.
Sincerely,
MAF
---------------
"I would term the people of Great Britain....VICTIMS.
"But, they brought this horrible state of affairs on themselves, and they, alone, CAN change it. When the carnage becomes too blatant....or when one of the UPPER CLASS is the victim, maybe they will re-think this situation."
Joann, Alaska
---------------
"I found your article A Nation of Thieves¹ to be brilliant. Your analogy was excellent and right on target. Please keep up the good work."
Regards
Dave Pike
---------------
"Thank you, Dr. Faria, for an excellent article."
Frank J. Brady
---------------
"Wonderful column!"
Dan Orr II
Las Vegas, NV
----------------
Thanks to all of the above!
MAF