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Just another to add. Local "boy" Jim Dina back in '85 built himself a birchbark canoe using nothing but stone age tools he also fashioned himself. He then took it 400 miles up the CT river using again, nothing but stone age technology. He authored a book about the experience "Voyage of the Ant" . I'm about 1/2 way through and it is proving to be a worthwhile read.

No phones, no lights, no motor cars, not a single luxury.
Like Robinson Crusoe, it's primitive as can be.
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Just finished 'Gettysburg' by Newt Gingrich. Waiting for 'Grant Comes East'. The story telling reminds me of Harold Coyle (whom I hope isn't going to leave me hangin' forever with Savage Wilderness and picks up with the American Revolution and the same characters and their descendants appropriate for the time period.)

Currently reading 'The Peloponnesian War' by Donald Kagan. Fascantating reading and analysis.
Learned where the phrases "spartan conditions", "spartan existence" came from. It's also easy to figure out how Leonidas and his Spartans held off the Persians at Thermopolaye Pass for as long as they did. All they did was train as warriors. :what:
 
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Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan
+1
New Spring by Jordan is excellent as well.

Good fantasy: Sevenwaters Trilogy by Juliet Marillier; The Sword, the Ring, and the Chalice by Deborah Chester; LOTR (of course).

The Seekers by Joshua Armstrong was a definite page-turner, as was Special Agent by Candice DeLong.

Memoirs of a Geisha by Arthur Golden is a favorite...movie comes out 9 Dec.

And in the genre that I'm sure is everyone's favorite...chick lit...Little Earthquakes by Jennifer Weiner. :neener:
 
I've been reading "The Journals of Lewis and Clark."

More exciting than I thought it would be, honestly. Plus, it prompted me to look into Lewis' "Air Gun," a .31 caliber, 22-shot, compressed-air-powered rifle. It was quiet, smokeless, and operated even when wet, unlike the single-shot muskets carried by other Corps members.
 
lately i have been reading the mystery novels by CJ Box, which were light but enjoyable.

For all of you who listed Robert Jordan, i was once duped like you. Then i was exposed to George RR Martin. The guy deserves the pulitzer, as i find it even better than Lonesome Dove.

Check out A Game of Thrones, it is being sold Dirt Cheap because Martin has already made a bazzilion dollars on it, and book 4 is about to come out, so they want to grab people with inexpensive book 1.

Warning, Martin's work is bloody and harsh. It is fantasy, but magic barely pops up at all. Steel is the real power. Steel and words. Good and Evil are not carefully and clearly drawn out. Main characters die and suffer. What most impressed me is that a character most would term as 'evil' and a villian of the series was transformed for me in book 3 into an extremely intriguing and understandable person.
 
Thermodynamics, evolution & fuds

The range of topics discussed on this great forum never ceases to amaze, interest & inform me.

OK, I'm a science geek, as some of you know. (Well, you did mention an interest in 'non-fiction'.) :)

Even worse, I'm a biologist fascinated by biological evolution.

Here are my current top three non-fiction - in no particular order - all dealing with how we got here from a scientific, evolutionary perspective:

Franklin Harold, The Way of the Cell: Molecules, Organisms & the Order of Life. THE BEST biology book I've ever read (and I've got a Ph.D. in the stuff). {see PS below re Ph.D., also called a "fud".}

This book rocks, even if it's pretty thick if you've never had a biology class. Fascinating journey through cell/molecular biology, what we've learned about cells in the last half century, focusing on bioenergetics (how living systems process energy to drive their lives) and morphogenesis (the origins of shapes in biological systems); major contemporary questions, punctuated by (chapter 10, especially) the revolution going on now in biology that is bigger than Darwin, addressing questions that Darwin never even dreeamed of. (But for that matter, neither did Einstein.)

Harold Morowitz, The Emergence of Everything: How the World Became Complex. Morowitz is one of the most notable biologists of our time with a solid grounding in thermodynamics (rare for biologists). He offers a fascinating explanation of the origins of everything from the Universe at the Big Bang to matter, atoms, the solar system, Earth, life, cells, organisms, civilization, religion & spirituality. Guaranteed to simultaneously inform & inflame (at least some). {PS: I don't necessarily agree with nor support all of Morowitz's more philosophical musings, but they are fun to discuss, and the science described in rest of the book makes wading through the other less-agreeable parts well worthwhile.}

Eric Schneider & Dorion Sagan, Into the Cool: Energy Flow, Thermodynamics and Life. Have questions about how life evolved given the reality of the second law of thermodynamics? Read this. Welcome to 21st century biology. (Note: Dorion Sagan is Carl Sagan's son by internationally renowned biologist Lynn Margulis, who i believe will be remembered as Darwin's equal for her theories about the evolution of the eukaryotic {nucleated} cell, which is now standard knowledge in all college-level biology texts from introductory to graduate.)

Not necessarily fun reading for creationists and the "intelligent design" crowd.
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{PS1 added via edit: i think that everyone knows this, at least, I hope so, but just for the record, because people with such degrees can be arrogant, please let me add this: the fact that I've got a Ph.D. does NOT mean that i'm any smarter (or better in ANY way) than anyone else. In many cases, it's just the opposite. After all that time, work & money, i still can't frame a house, repair my truck, or repair a roof like a lot of others can, and i admire them for those abilities. I'm on this forum because even though I understand the biological reasons that a [name your life form] dies when hit with a [name your caliber} round, I don't have basic knowledge of home defense with a 12 ga. (But I'm learning LOTS about that on this forum. Thanks for sharing.)

When the SHTF, knowing how to frame a shelter is probably going to be more immediately useful than knowledge of the insides of cells. In the mean time, imaginary & intellectual journeys into cells give me joy. It drove me to do the "fud" (sure as hell wasn't the pay).

That "degree" means i know more biology than the average person since i spent a LONG time (8 years on that degree alone, and i've got 3 others) studying biology (out of pure love of the knowledge about life) while living below the poverty line, doing grunt work for profs, and sometimes licking the metaphorical boots of my "superiors"...don't get me started :fire: .

(My doctoral comprehensive written exams set a new departmental record: 96 hours writing. They set limits after that. My orals were probably the most ... um, humbling :barf: experience I've ever had that I hope never to repeat. I passed the writtens flying because i'm a good writer. I passed stumbling through the orals because i don't always think well on my feet under pressure, and the aspects of neo-Darwinism that i was being grilled on did not make sense. It was not until after my degree was finished that i began to understand why: it was bull s**t.)
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PS2: added via edit: to creationists and any interested in the intelligent design idea. I'm not going to turn this great thread on reading lists into an argument about that. Maybe some other day, some other thread.

Suffice to say for now, just to be clear: I support anyone's first amendment rights to believe anything they wish to believe, including the intelligent design folks and the creationists. I will stand and fight for that if I must.

I even agree with them about one thing (but one thing only, in a scientific sense about evolution per se): neo-Darwinism, as it is now taught in most US schools, colleges & universities, is seriously inadequate as a paradigm to explain biological evolution. Parts of it ARE part of the story - in particular, Darwin's idea of natural selection - but it is not the whole story. There is significantly more to the story than the neo-Darwinists are allowing into the argument.

But that's where my agreement with the intelligent design folks ends on the topic of evolution. I have major issues with "id" other than that, but again, will not discuss them on this thread. The books I listed above address new developments in science offering a third, much more plausible option, imo, besides neo-Darwinism or intelligent design.

This is particularly relevant in a day and time when the latter are understandably attacking the reliability of the principles of the former in an attempt to get their own views included in school curricula. Again, there is a third option that is getting neither consideration by school boards or by the media.

The ideas in those books are scientifically sound; numerous Nobel laureates have been involved in their development and they are published in mainstream top science journals like Science & Nature. But they are neither quick nor easy to understand and explain if you've not been exposed to them before. (And they aren't yet included in any comprehensive way in college undergraduate classes, so most have not.)

If anyone wants more info after exploring those suggested books, or my major issues with id, send me a PM. I'm happy to suggest more reading.

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Ya know, I just gotta toss one in there myself. Catch-22, funniest book I've ever read. Little disjointed, but I think that adds to it. I like to think of it as the Dr. Strangelove of books.

"Well, I, uh, don't think it's fair just to condemn a whole program just because of a single slip-up, sir." --Gen. 'Buck' Turgidson
 
"Frankenstein" ,Book Two,"City Of Night" by Dean Koontz
just got back from a trip to Seattle, It's a great read.

Gun relation: a couple of the main characters realize they are severly undergunned with department issue weapons against these "new race" things with 2 hearts and armor thick skulls.

So they go to their friendly gun merchant and purchase 2 "Urban Sniper shotguns,( that only shoots slugs), complete with sidesaddles and 3 way slings, barrel cut down to 14 inches.

And for sidearms, they purchase 2 Desert Eagles on .50 Magnums with 2 spare mags for each pistol. (page 151).

Then the fun begins..... (I gotta read Book One, Book Three won't be out until 2006)
 
I definately like John Ringo's Posleen War books.

I know he has another one coming out ,Watch on the Rhine, which is about how Germany uses SS troops to deal with the situation. It hasnt quite arrived at my local library yet though.

However the other day I did find another new John Ringo book that I had not heard about.

It is called "Into the Looking Glass"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...bs_b_2_1/104-0473049-2372746?v=glance&s=books

It turns out its not part of the rest of the Posleen series, but it is really quite good. Has a few scenes where armed locals help the military blast the crap out of aliens.
 
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