Real Life Security Situation- Help needed

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SM understand what you mean and like I said in my post no Booby traps trip flares are not booby traps they simply make light and noise! We in the military have used them for a long time and as an LEO I know for a fact they are not illegal. I would never do anything to get anyone put in prison and AndyJ knows that I have known him a very long time and wouldnt enjoy that. In TX if you have the owners permission to protect his property and have a gun it is a legal right to protect your property I.E... Dozers Mobile Homes and Personnel.
 
I know it can be rough - but if you can get through to talk to someone locally - the way to go about it is to explain that you're in the same boat as they are (even though you're really not).

Since the out-of-town landowner is out-of-town, you simply become a proxy for the locals' frustrations. If you can somehow disconnect yourself from being that proxy - explain to them that you're just a guy trying to do a job, a lot of people I think will at least sympathize with that. It's not your property, you're just trying to make a paycheck. Can't really fault somebody for that. If you can sort of get that across somehow - I think most people would back off and cut you some slack.
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Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. One thing we try and do is purchase as much as we can from local business. Fuel, parts, groceries, beer -- sometimes that gives us an in and sometimes it doesn't.

The problem is we are outsiders and more closely associated with the landowner -- it is hard to overcome that handicap. There are always local excavation contractors and with the economy in the toilet, they are hurting for work just like everybody else. Some think we are taking food off their table and they resent US and the landowner for not hiring local.

We are not new to this business so in most cases we can draw on past experiences to get through a job. This one is just a bad case of location and the economic downturn.
 
gotta be careful not to make it worse
i knew a guy who rigged his place with a teargas security system. they burned his cabin
 
kuntreeboy80,

You and I are fine, and I did not take your post negative.
I was hedging off the usual Armchair and Net Ninja contingency that would chime in with the usual replies we do get in S&T

My concern is, setting off anything that resembles "live gunfire" might cause some real incoming from criminals.

Texas has its laws and again the Armchairs and Net Ninja will cite "Texas says" and get someone in trouble in another state.
 
you guts ever need to hire extra help? a local boy ain't a bad idea if you do and i hate to give away my secrets but i always try to talk to the local sky pilots. attend a service or 2. in my case we buy property . and the preachers know everybody and everything. in my old age i like to get along. not sure what these jobs are like but an "extra" load of gravel on a church drive can go a long way.especially if you pick a poor church. i'm not politically correct but i chose a church that in my opinion might likely have members whose families might be the ones inclined to rip me off.
 
We used to build employee dormitory trailer parks in the middle of the Nevada desert for Candelaria mines. Two hundred unit parks with septic, electrical and water systems. When we were near any potential trouble areas such as rural settlements of indiginous natives or an indian res. we used "rent a fence" and erected ten foot high chain link sections with razor wire on top around our equipment lager and lived inside the enclosure until the job was done.
 
Andy,

I don't know how the electricity situation is there yet. But once you have power, I would suggest motion-activated floodlights (I've even seen self-contained, solar-powered versions of these at Harbor Freight), or some kind of camera system. I just saw a set at Costco the other day that I'm considering for my home. It was wireless, had two cameras and was on sale for around $120. It also could be expanded by adding other cameras.

Just some thoughts, good luck! Stay safe!
 
New to this forum but after reading everything posted

had an idea not yet mentioned - I think.

If you can hire a local to do just a bit of the work..........dump truck, back hoe, whatever, maybe take the "edge" off of being a "furriner" to those parts. Of course your gravel will be local. Maybe have the local guy do the septic? He just might know of a larger job that he couldn't handle himself that could work in to your gig along the way?

Keep us posted as this transmogrifies..............



Enjoy today but be prepared for tomorrow.
 
TAJ45,

Working a few hundred miles from home base most every job means we have to have what we need with us. That translates to alot of attractive stuff. Welders, generators, torches, pumps, tools of every description, chain saws; you get the picture.

Past experience has taught us that privacy is an asset. We don't invite visitors to the job site. If we have a contractor or fuel delivery or outside equipment repair on site, all the goodies get put up in job boxes. It is just better that way.

Oh, we can install a septic system in about 2 hours.
 
Gee.....sounds an awful lot like around here!!

Lots of back roads? Check.
Deliverance music in the background? Check.
Random deer blinds? Check.
Sketchy neighbors? Check.

And the list keeps going........
 
I agree on the trip-wire booby traps that fire a 12 gauge blank. They are great signaling devices till the deer trip them. They just make noise and do not injure.

You could also get the crew to pull 2 hour guard duty and rotate. Or just hire a local retired guy to pull security at night. That should be cheap and he could use the money I'm sure.

Get a cheap FRS handheld radio setup and rig it to transmit if the area is breached. If you get a retired guy to guard then give him a radio too.

Layer your security.

Put up signs like 24/7 armed security and post the area and the road. Also say turn around you are entering private property.

Light the area some way if possible. Some 12volt car lights on some sort of random timer to turn on and off. Charge the batteries during the day. Even 12volt security lights with a motion activator

Disable all machinery by pulling coil wires or the like after the shift.

Get creative as it is cheap and effective. You get what you pay for but a live guard is really good. I'll bet you can get someone retired cheap! Pay cash.

This is just off the top of my head and I may think of more later. Brainstorm with the crew and see what they come up with.


THought of another.....they make driveway alert thing that send a radio signal to a base unit and rings a bell. Many ranchers use these to monitor gates and driveways so they know when someone is coming. Less than $100 many places online.
 
If you can afford $100/night for an unarmed guard that is your best bet for security. Trip wires, dogs, etc will not be as effective as a person at relizing there is danger and waking you up. Or you could take shifts at night
 
SM understand what you mean and like I said in my post no Booby traps trip flares are not booby traps they simply make light and noise! We in the military have used them for a long time and as an LEO I know for a fact they are not illegal.
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Trip flares are indeed not booby traps. On the other hand, they can cause fires and or severe burns. Use them with caution.

Probably only a stupid person would be burned by one, but most of the thieves I've met weren't renaissance men.
 
Trip flares are not an option. We are in the middle of 800 acres of dense Piney Woods.

I am not comfortable with hiring a security guard either. I think a stranger coming and going while we are living there 24/7 would be uncomfortable.
 
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