TexasPatriot.308
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I have a Ruger No. 1 Varminter in .22-250 I never shoot. A couple questions. Can a Ruger No. 1 be rebarreled and secondly could this rifle be rebarreled into a 6.5 Creedmoor??
Rebarreling question for gunsmiths/gun gurus
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CraigC
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What he said.
TexasPatriot.308
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Couldn't it just be rebored, since it is falling block, any work done to the throat?
someguy2800
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Yes and yes. Any competant gunsmith can handle this.
They just recently started making them in 6.5 Creedmoor and they are quite expensive so you could easily be money ahead rebarreling instead of selling it and buying one in 6.5c.
They just recently started making them in 6.5 Creedmoor and they are quite expensive so you could easily be money ahead rebarreling instead of selling it and buying one in 6.5c.
entropy
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Ejector would have to be replaced/remade. The .22/250 is based on the .250 Savage, 6.5 on the .308.
Im not familiar with the #1s ejection system (wish i were), but with both the .250/300/CM family, and the .308 family sharing the same rim/base I would have thought the ejection system word work for both.
The 6.5CM is actually much more similar in size to the .250 than it is to the .308. Side by side with my .250AI, it looks like a slightly less improved variant.
The 6.5CM is actually much more similar in size to the .250 than it is to the .308. Side by side with my .250AI, it looks like a slightly less improved variant.
entropy
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Yeah, I didn't realize they were that close. .250 rim daimeter= .4730" , thickness= .054" .308 rim diameter= .4728" thickness= .0539" It should work without modification.
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If a guy rebarreled it, it could always be reverted. Not true if rebored or sold/traded.
CraigC
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Reboring sounds easy until you start trying to find a shop to actually do it. Rebarreling is going to be a better option than reboring anyway. Personally, I'm all about custom guns and have had quite a few built but wouldn't spend a bunch of money modifying something to end up with something I can buy off the shelf. If I wanted a #1 in 6.5CM, I'd buy one. Been considering having one built in an obsolete rimmed cartridge but may end up just buying a 6.5.
Big question is what barrel contour do you want?
Big question is what barrel contour do you want?
Yes it might depending on a few different factors but why? The work that needs to be done to re-bore is similar to the work to re-barrel. But with re-barreling you're more likely of a positive outcome. There are some potential problems and risks with re-boring... You would still be money ahead just buying a bolt action 6.5 if you take into account that you could either sell the #1 to pay for it or keep the #1 as is and when all is said and done you would still have the value of two rifles instead of one...
http://www.cutrifle.com/reboring.html
someguy2800
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If it has sentimental value or your just fond of it, that is reason enough to rebarrel it. A #1 with a match grade 6.5C barrel on it would be one fine rifle. I would expect the cost to run 4-500 dollars out the door.
old heeler
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I have Ruger # 1 varminter and I had barrel replace. Gunsmith remove barrel and was send to Krieger so they matched barrel contour I know last thing they did was screws for the scope bases and there both dead center on the barrel. The 6.5CM has shorter body than 22-250 so have to cut some threads.
sage5907
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Unless you are just stuck on a 6.5 CM there is a cheaper way to go. You can buy a used Ruger No. 1 barrel on eBay for about $100 and a gunsmith will charge less than $100 to install the barrel. Just keep an eye on eBay and the barrel and cartridge that you are looking for will eventually show up, maybe even a 6.5 CM. A 270 Winchester would be the easiest to find and a good 270 Winchester barrel will perform similar to a 6.5 CM. Maybe not quite as accurate at long range but you probably won't be able to tell the difference. I have bought several rifle barrels on eBay in near perfect condition and I have never been disappointed. It's a lot easier for me to spend $200 for a barrel change than it is to go through the process of getting a $600 new barrel installed.
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A decent match grade, barrel alone is going to start at around $250-$300... and then there is the chamber, threads, contour/barrel channel, extractor cut, install, etc..... Better plan on adding at least one or two hundred to that estimate...
http://www.shilen.com/pricesRifleBarrels.html
https://kriegerbarrels.com/
Even assuming that the the barrel doesn't need to be set back and that the barrel profile matches your forearm, you're not likely to find any gunsmith who will take off your old barrel, install the replacement barrel and head space for "less than $100"........
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someguy2800
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Nah it can be done for 400-500 if you shop around. Mabey not with a shilen but there are other options, Shaw, Wilson, McGowen, Green Mountain, ect...
sage5907
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If you take a rifle to a gunsmith and have him install a new barrel that is contoured, crowned, polished, chambered, headspaced, blued, and fitted to the stock you are talking somewhere between $500 and $600. He's going to a 6.5 CM for accuracy, so I would think he would go to a quality barrel hoping that he would get long range accuracy. A good gunsmith can install a used barrel with the correct headspace for less than $100. I have had one installed several times. Most gunsmiths work at an hourly rate.
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First off, there is no way of knowing beforehand whether or not the used barrel you bring in will properly head space on YOUR rifle without being set back...
Second, if your gunsmith has recently swapped and head spaced (not just screwed them on and hoped for the best) several used rifle barrels for you for less then $100 a piece then he has certainly done you some favors......
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In my experience I've actually found both statement to be true.
One Smith I known locally will install a prethreaded and contoured barrel (used included) for about 75 bucks. He's done a couple for me, and does very good work.
The other places i contacte before finding him either wouldn't do used, even new take offs barrels, or wanted 150+ for the work.
This is assuming a standard bolt gun, I haven't checked on other action types.
Personally my opinion is budget for a mid to top quality new barrel. Scope mounts on the #1s are integral to the barrel, that will increase cost.
With everything cost is gonna be about what a new #1 in 6.5 would be, so get exactly what you want.
Or sell your current one and buy one in 6.5 as suggested.
Again personally I really like customs....I'd probably go that route.
pert near
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I'll also add in, I agree with Bushpilot. Sell the .22-250 & buy the CM...your best solution.
FWIW
sage5907
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When I take a used barrel to a gunsmith it is understood that if needed he will take a turn (set the barrel back) to get the proper headspace.
Believe it or not, there are still some good gunsmiths out there who will do the job reasonably and know exactly what they are doing.
One other point, when I buy a used barrel I know it is a new takeoff and in excellent condition when I buy it. I bought a pre 64 Model 70 barrel today that is in new condition and I paid $86. Has front and rear sights with hood. Perfect blue without a scratch. The reason I suggested that the op buy a used 270 Winchester is because there are many used barrels available that were removed by someone else who had big bucks to spend and also wants a 6.5 CM. Buy his barrel for $100 and you have a rifle almost as good as his with 1/3 the cost. I know some people don't understand the logic.
someguy2800
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Well I for one am a big fan of the 270 but that’s not what he asked for and there are certainly advantages and disadvantages to both in ammo and bullet selection, ballistics, recoil, ect... but we don’t need to get into that.
I have put used barrels on other guns but I personally would not put a used barrel on a ruger #1 simply because they seam to be so spotty in how they shoot in stock form. Some shoot great, some really bad. If someone took the barrel off a ruger #1 chances are good it’s not because it was a terrific shooter.
I have put used barrels on other guns but I personally would not put a used barrel on a ruger #1 simply because they seam to be so spotty in how they shoot in stock form. Some shoot great, some really bad. If someone took the barrel off a ruger #1 chances are good it’s not because it was a terrific shooter.
rbernie
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I don’t see the benefit in spending a lot of money for a premium barrel and installation services to upgrade a rifle that is mechanically never going to be the epitome of accuracy, simply based on its design.
I think buying a factory new 6.5 CM is probably the better part of valor.
I think buying a factory new 6.5 CM is probably the better part of valor.
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