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  1. shooterx10

    shooterx10 Member

    May 8, 2003
    For you Kalifornians, keep sending those petitions in!

    WND Exclusive Commentary Why California's Gov. Davis may be facing historic recall
    Posted: May 13, 2003
    1:00 a.m. Eastern

    © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

    History happened last week, but if you didn't have your radio tuned to a select few talk hosts in California – you heard nothing about it!

    Last Monday, May 5, the combined efforts of the state's two main recall organizations announced the collection of over 100,000 signatures – well over 10 percent of those needed to recall Gov. Gray Davis. Since California's creation of a "Constitutional Recall" in 1911, this is the first time a recall campaign aimed at a statewide elected official has reached even 10 percent of the needed signatures, elevating it to a historical event.

    Now, under California law, the secretary of state has to "officially offer the count each month" to the citizens and media alike – a new reality for California's most despised governor in state history.

    Combine this news with evidence that additional 200,000-plus signatures are in the pipeline headed for Sacramento's "belly of the beast" and you have a nervous governor's office and state Capitol. One must now remember, all of this outrage has been orchestrated by the grassroots, volunteer efforts of simple taxpayers and the common citizens of California through talk radio and the Internet.

    The question that has been begging for an answer is: "What would happen if some 'serious money' could help the cause?" It appears that this question will soon be answered.

    Last month, on my morning talk show (1380 KTKZ, Sacramento), U.S. Congressman Darrell Issa, R-Vista, announced his interest in supporting the recall effort. Freshly back from his journey to Syria for the Bush administration, Congressman Issa told me he was concerned about the current status of his home state. He arrived in Sacramento after leaving Syria and decided he wanted to help the cause and rescue California.

    As of last Thursday, Congressman Darrell Issa has created a third recall organization in Sacramento called Rescue California. Issa has also contributed $100,000 of his own money to begin the process of putting full-time signature gatherers on the street up and down the state of California for the recall campaign. Congressman Issa is also planning for nearly 2 million pieces of mail, sending petitions directly to registered voters in the coming weeks.

    This, in conjunction with the two ever-growing grassroots efforts of Davis Recall and Recall Gray Davis, could mean that the recall effort will reach the magical number of 1.2 million signatures by Independence Day 2003 – a new independence for California. (Remember – the legal drop dead date for this recall campaign is not until Sept. 2, 2003.)

    With this new synergy, the propaganda of "Baghdad Bob" has surfaced in the Golden State in the form of something we have labeled "Save Gray Sam." We have witnessed this in prior times – while American troops stormed Baghdad, the Iraqi minister of information, "Baghdad Bob," gave unfounded and false reports. The same type of "fictional-journalism" is being offered by the liberal media and Davis cronies in California.

    Now, most of us have come to expect the "spin" from the state's Democrat Party. Their anti-recall rhetoric of lack of money, slow speed in gathering signatures and confusion among the volunteer recall campaigns has been redundant over the past two months. With the addition of Congressman Issa, the Democrats brought out the old talking-points memo of "politics of personal destruction," drudging up Issa's "assumed dirt" in an attempt to make the issue Darrell Issa and not Gov. Gray Davis and the recall.

    While Gov. Davis has released the attack hounds, he has also held numerous "secret" meetings in Sacramento. Just last week, the Sacramento Bee and the San Francisco Chronicle began to mention these "lengthy meetings" in the possibility that the recall effort is successful.

    Gray Davis has also started raising money again – campaign money. He has organized a golf event in Carmel, Calif., for May 23. You can attend the "Golf with Gray" for either $5,000 or $15,000, depending on the importance of your union's or lobbyist concern over the impending budget cuts on the horizon. So, why has a termed-out governor – facing a $36 billion debt – decided that this is the perfect time to go back to the fundraising pond?

    By far, though, the most bothersome aspect of this recall effort seems to be something we have labeled as the "fear factor" inside of the Republican National Committee. Does the RNC really want Gov. Gray Davis to be recalled – and if not, why not? Let's take a look at some of the arguments being thrown at those who support the recall.

    First they say the recall effort will take away from party's priorities of defeating Barbara Boxer and re-electing President George W. Bush. The argument starts and ends with money: "What if the recall takes money away from the state's party and the effort to defeat Boxer?" Well ... if you like the "what ifs," what if it creates a "grow the pie" type of excitement and synergy for a bored and apathetic state party? What if the political base of the California GOP gets stronger and richer because of leadership and accomplishment? What if?

    Republicans are supposed to be the ones promoting tax cuts and policies that stimulate the economy and grow the economic pie – it is far past time we realized the same principles apply to the strength and riches of a political party as well.

    The next "fear factor" says if the recall campaign attacks Gov. Davis on the deficit, who's to say they won't return the attack on President Bush and the deficit in Washington, D.C.?

    Get real: When did California financially support a war effort? When did California begin a worldwide fight on terrorism – and win it? When did Davis oversee the largest reformation of the government to create a department of Homeland Security, pay for it and supply it? And, when has President Bush ever had a real surplus? The Clinton surplus was not! He used the Social Security money to cook the books to make it look balanced.

    If the Republican Party cannot win the previous debate items, they have no business making decisions for the nation – let alone California. If the "fear factor" causes the party to recoil from liberating California from the worst governor the state has ever beheld, then this state needs to look for another "opposition party," because the "go along to get along" GOP has seen its last day with California people!

    The final "fear factor" is that Davis could be replaced with a popular Senator Boxer, Senator Feinstein, Attorney General Lockyer or Lt. Governor Bustemante. My only response when I hear fear like this is "The Gipper" himself – as President Ronald Reagan would say: "There they go again!"

    If the voters are really ready – and we are convinced that they are – to recall a failed Davis administration, they are not likely to replace him with another Democrat to continue those failed policies. All the Republicans have to do is be willing to set their "fear factors" aside and go forth presenting that Shining City on the Hill that our founders and President Reagan always talked about.

    Yet, it seems that the Republican Party has an "afraid to win" belief in California – a self imposed "fear factor." Here we have the opportunity to boot Gov. Davis and put in his place a Republican in the corner office in Sacramento, fixing the problems that Democrats created – right before a Bush re-election campaign. What could be better for the re-election effort of President Bush?

    Other nagging questions are: Does the RNC believe they can win California? Do they really want California?

    Here's an observation. Why did the Bush administration recently support the turning off of the Colorado water supply to California? Due to large amounts of rainfall this season, this will not become a major issue in this re-election campaign. But they didn't know that when they made the decision. Is this evidence that the national party and the Bush re-election camp has already written off California?

    If this is true, then why should we, the people, care if they don't support the recall of the most disliked and despised governor in California history? We'll do it ourselves and lead the way for the lackluster Republican effort in the Golden State.

    Strong state political parties behave differently. Look at Ohio. President Bush visited the Buckeye State to pressure their beloved U.S. senator, George Voinovich, into supporting his full tax-credit and economic package. Now, I'll be the first to say that I believe the president's plan for economic stimulation is correct. But the fiscally conservative "Ohio George" only supports half the tax break the president is asking for from the senate.

    Sen. Voinovich has made his mark in never spending from a deficit. The president tried his best to use his high approval numbers and great influence to move Voinovich and the Ohio GOP. They were, and still are, un-swayed by this type of politicking.

    When it comes time to vote, Ohio will support both the "Ohio George" and "George W" in their next elections. Why? Because of leadership vs. hopeful politicking and "fear-factor attitudes." The strength and maturity of the Ohio GOP is in the state issues and state leadership – this breeds national wins, support and finances for President Bush and other RNC campaigns. Why can't the California "elephants on parade" see this silver lining?

    One can only hope that the real Republican Party of California can find the same inner strength to grab hold of this opportunity to grow the party and GOP leadership from the grassroots up to the top. This recall is the perfect elixir for the ailing state GOP in California.

    When it is all said and done, come July 4 – or some day before Sept. 2 – and California begins a special election for a new governor, will the Republican Party be ready ... or will they still be indecisive and divided?

    If they continue to believe the propaganda of "Save Gray Sam" or cower to the rhetoric of the "fear-factor" monsters in the dark, they may miss the one opportunity to capture lightening in a bottle. A chance afforded by the people for the people – looking for real leadership to embrace a real party determined to reload the future upon a recall of the past!

    Here is the link.
  2. Sactown

    Sactown Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    As Machiavellian as this may seem, I'm hoping he stays in office and people realize how bad it is with democrats in control. Maybe then people will understand that when your expenitures exceed your revenues, it's time to do some cutting.
  3. Russ

    Russ Member

    Dec 26, 2002

    I think most of us who live in the United States know what that's like when the govt spends more than it takes in. Remember the national debt (not the deficit) stands at over 6 Trillion or as the Brits would say 6,000 millon dollars. That means we ran big deficits for a long time under the DemocRAT Congress. Now we have them with the Republicans in control.

    Unlike the PRK, the US can get out of the hole easily by printing a bunch of money if they really want to. It won't be worth anything and we will go into an inflationary depression like Germany did in the 1930's.

    I just don't think the US Govt will ever let the PRK fail too miserably before it bails it out. When over 10% of the population lives there, they just can't let it happen.

    Look at the bright side. In 70 years or less we'll all be dead!
  4. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    I can't believe only 100,000 people have signed the petition! If I were still in the People's Republic of California, I'd have been one of the first to sign, and surely would have helped persuade lots of friends and acquaintances to do likewise.
  5. QuarterBoreGunner

    QuarterBoreGunner Member

    Mar 10, 2003
    West Oakland
    I think that when more of the general public realizes exactly how bad things have gotten under Davis, there will be more outcry.


    (Rough figures from my memory, I’m looking for hard data)

    In 1999-2000 the state had a budgetary surplus of about $12 billion. Here we are three years later and we’re facing a budgetary deficit of over $30 billion. What the heck happened there?

    Personally I feel that if Davis had spent more time working with the state legislature and less time fund raising for his re-election campaign, we may not be facing such a dire situation.
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