Recent Airport Experience...

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Thanks Jeff. Perhaps we can educate the airports one at a time until the playing field is level.

I still can't understand why it should matter at all if we travel with a gun in our luggage or not. For years i flew with my guns. I do admit that I'd put the frames in one suitcase and the slides & barrels in another.

But then again I don't understand why we law-abiding folks can't just carry ours on the plane with us. Hells Bells I'd be in favor of a Common Carrier CCW. Where if you have a state CCW you could apply for a shall issue CCW for Planes & Trains & any other form of passenger transportation. I prefer taking the train anyway.
 
I'm happy to help...I'm anti-stupid-govt-policy too! (And there sure are a lot of stupid policies!)

1. The regs state that once a passenger has presented their item for screening, they may no longer touch said item again. Now, if the screener was concerned about customer service, they would allow you to open the case for the screener, but different airports do things differently. If I am screening a gun case, I let the passenger open it for me. The TSA was supposed to make screening consistent around the nation...it has a long way to go!

2. There is a "no fly" list, but I don't know anything about it.

Hope that helps!

CZ 75:

I'm not sure why they would record your information. I would imagine it is not for official purposes, but rather for local records. As I said above, different airports do things differently. The management at my airport LOVES extra (and unnecessary) paperwork. I'm sure it was the same thing at the airport you had the experience at.

Take care!
 
I´ve flown with all kinds of guns and had generally good reactions from the southwest airlines people. Except in miami. I was checking a long gun and I asked for 500 in extra insurance for my firearm (totalling 2500 dollars). She looked at me like I was from another planet. I opened the case after her manager instructed and I very politely showed her the fact that the bolt was removed and all ammo was stored in poly containers. Then she asked if these bullets were armor piercing or explosive or hollowpointed. Understanding she had no idea what she was talking about I said no (they were sierra match kings, which are HP). Then she derisively asked if my shirt was something gun related (it was an anshutz t-shirt), and I said yep. Then she asked why I was interested so fixated with guns, and I replied with both my hands shaking violently, "Because I´m a crazzzzzzy gun nut." That shut her up. The TSA guy over at the X-ray machine (also a gun nut) and I laughed over that one. (he recommended BLC-2 for 223 loads :) )

atek3
 
For those who have "gun problems" at airports: if your federal congresscritters are RKBA, then I'd write them a letter about it and politely ask if they can go over the law with the TSA.
 
A friend of mine, who was also an NRA Director at the time, went to LAX for a flight to several cities where he was to give firearms courses. He took with him fourteen handguns of various configuration.

When he got to LAX, he stood there and dutifully opened each case, showed by manipulation that each was unloaded and, after relocking each, the guy behind the counter took them and placed them behind the counter.

This was at the time when they required you to fill out an orange sticker that said FIREARM and it was pasted on the outside of the case. That case was then conveyed to the pilot who carried it in the cockpit.

The problem came when he went to security at his first destination and stated that he had fourteen firearms to be returned to him. Guy goes back to look.

First guy comes out with second guy and, after some questions, they go back.

First and second guy show up with a third guy who tells him that they can't find his firearms. They also tell him that the pilot on his flight denies ever coming in possession of them.

He makes some calls and gives his class the next day using borrowed firearms.

He makes his next flight but they still have no word on his firearms but assure him that they will catch up to him. He is in his hotel room when he gets a call from the LAPD. It is a Leiutenant who states that his firearms have been recovered. It seems that the idiot behind the counter didn't really know what to do with the firearms so he sent them down the conveyor with the rest of the baggage.

Now here is this guy at the other end of the conveyor who thinks the heavens have just opened up because here come fourteen clearly marked cases that say FIREARM on them so he starts pulling them off as fast as they come down and stashes them under the conveyor.

The problem for him is that another thief sees him stash them so he goes over and steals the stolen firearms from him. The first guy gets miffed and snitches off the second guy who in turn snitches off the first guy. By the time all is done, they have about ten people in custody and have broken up a major theft ring at LAX.

The firearms were recovered from the baggage area of a Lufthansa flight destined for Germany.

The LAPD tell him that they will hold the firearms in property until he gats back but he insists that he wants the airline to get them and bring them to him. The cops, being appreciative that they have gotten rid of a major crime ring, agree to this. He calls the airline and tells them his itenerary and that they need to get them to him post-haste.

Mistake.

Big mistake.

Big, big mistake.

As a director, he was also going to a director's meeting at the NRA. This was at the time that the NRA was still located in Washington, DC.

He is in his DC hotel room when he gets a knock at his door, and there stands a guy with a big box. :eek:

So here he is in DC with a big ol' box with fourteen handguns. :what:

He got on the phone and called a friend in VA and told him to "get the Hell over here and get these things out of here!" Before the friend got there, he opened each case to inspect the firearms. All were in perfect condition with the exception that they all had had the grips removed. He surmised that the cops were searching for drugs.

The rest of the trip went uneventfully.
 
that sorry...makes me think some people are too stupid to breath much less go through the motions of feeding themselves.

atek3
 
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