Recommendation for camping snubbie

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I would like some opinion on snubbie that light enough to be carry in the back pocket , water resistance in case of my sister tip the canoe(again ) and able to handle 158 grain .38 SPC load. I currently use Charter Arms undercover but it kept poking my butt every time I sit down. How hard is one of those hammerless , scandium titanium snubbie to shoot at let say 15 yards ?
 
The only snubby I have is the S&W 442 & 642. The 642 having CTC 405 laser grips I'd take the 442. I carry them n a Desaints Nemisis in teh front pocket. It might not feel to good in the back pocket sitting in a canoe.

My hiking Camping gun is a S&W 686+ 4". I'll soon have a choice of a S&W 629 5". Bothe wil partner with Marlin's in same calibers.
 
The recoil depends on the kind of ammo you use.

With full power loads in .357 or even midrange .357 loads they are not for the inexperienced.

My opinion is that if the light weight in very important then buy it and try different types of ammo until you find one that meets your recoil tolerance.

Midway sells a wide variety of ammo on their website and they include the nominal ballistics for each load so you can sample them from mild to wild until you find what you like.

http://www.midwayusa.com
 
I carry a S&W 340PD.

It is a Scandium .38/.357MAG and weighs less than 12 oz. empty.

I can shoot .38+P out of it just fine, but the recoil on the .357MAG is just a bit much, although I would have no problem contolling my shot placement at 15 yards (at least enough to get the job done - it aint a target pistol)

The design of this gun is such that it is meant to be carried often but shot little.

My opinion would be that weight and comfort would be more of a concern for me than recoil. I can carry this gun all day inside-the-front-pocket or IWB and practically forget that it is there.
 
Thank everyone for the input .I think I will have to visit gun store and handle all this snubbie and may be get a pant with button front pocket so I don't have to sit on my snubbie. :)
 
Ruger SP101. It's heavier than that 340 and that's a very, very good thing. You ain't talkin' concealed pocket carry here, just sliding it in your back pocket, the SP101 will do that. I cringe at the thought of shooting buffalo bore 180 in a Smith 340 and, in fact, Buffalo Bore recommends against it due to probablility of bullets pulling their crimp in that ridiculously light gun. It'd probably do damage to your hand at any rate. They kick pretty hard in an SP101, but with a Hogue grip, they ain't too bad. And, the stainless construction of the gun is great for outdoor carry and rust resistance.

I have a 180 grain handload that, out of my 2.3" barreled SP101, puts up 1306 fps/682 ft lbs, enough to stop anything up to black bear and it's quite accurate out of the little gun, too. A 3" gun might not fit the back pocket scenario, but has advantages for outdoor use.

In .38 special only, there's tons of choices. I'd get a stainless J frame with a hammer spur for single action shooting (in the field, SA is desireable). Something like a M88 Rossi on the low end, or a M60 Smith in either .38 special or .357 magnum on the high end. I had a M88 Rossi that was a quite accurate little gun, but replaced it with a M85UL Taurus that's also a fine shooter and lighter. It is stainless/alloy.

For outdoor uses, though, I'd get an SP101 in .357 magnum if I were you. You might desire the .357 capability someday and, it ain't THAT heavy. I'd put it in a small belt holster, though, for outdoor carry.
 
+1 on the Ruger SP101. Could be the best snub nose on the planet!
Just don't tell that to my Taurus 94 or newly ordered Smith and Wesson 351PD, they might get jealous.
 
yep, YEP, YEP on the SP101. It's the Pitbull of J-frame sized revolvers. It's no lightweight for sure...and you'll be GLAD it's not if you ever need to shoot full-house .357 mag ammo. I would also recommend the 3.06" barrel. The sight radius is longer, the balance is better, the recoil is easier, the muzzle blast/flash is reduced & (best of all) the ejector is long enough to COMPLETELY clear the long .357 mag hulls out of the chambers during a fast reload.

And for Pete's Sake...buy a holster!
 
638

SP-101 ranks high;
SW638 covers all four worlds
Single,double,light, and concealable
Doesn't act ignorant when jerking out of pocket
Accuracy: with practice

Bear Gun? wont hurt; quite as bad; as something larger; when it is pulled from your behind.:)

Can, and do carry different ones; first one I look for; 638:
 
Without reading the rest of the replies I would recommend
the S & W M60 .357 Mag w/3 inch Barrel - it's all steel and at
can handle the .357 - with the 24 oz weight it is also controllable
but not so heavy as to be a burden on a high ride foreward cant strong side carry holster. Pack some Heavy, lighter and shot shells and you will
be well served with the weapon. .
 
After reading the replies I must say I read a gun review
of one of the newer S&Ws with the Scandium frame/Ti cyl. and shroud over the scandium barrel shroud the 325PD The author makes if a point
that S & W recommends in .357 Mag. NO BULLET WT GREATER THAN 125 gr. JHP!!! A friend in Oregon said he was at the range practising with his
Delta 10MM and a guy with a new S&W 325PD or a similiar model in .357 Mag. used full power 158 gr. and bulged a cylinder. RTFM
 
For camping: I would pack a rifle or shotgun.

For Backpacking: I would carry a something a little more versitile than a snubbie. A Ruger GP-100 or SW 686, etc. The greater the range, the better.
(I don't want to let anything I'd be using a revolver on get within "snubbie range".)

Just my two cents.
 
After reading the replies I must say I read a gun review
of one of the newer S&Ws with the Scandium frame/Ti cyl. and shroud over the scandium barrel shroud the 325PD The author makes if a point
that S & W recommends in .357 Mag. NO BULLET WT GREATER THAN 125 gr. JHP!!! A friend in Oregon said he was at the range practising with his
Delta 10MM and a guy with a new S&W 325PD or a similiar model in .357 Mag. used full power 158 gr. and bulged a cylinder. RTFM
Sorry, but the 325 PD is an N Frame chambered in 45 ACP. Further the warning on the barrel of the 340 series .357 Mag scandium J frames reads "NO LESS THAN 120 GR BULLET".
 
(I don't want to let anything I'd be using a revolver on get within "snubbie range".)

Depends on what your "snubby range" is. 50 yards isn't hard with a snub on something the size of a hog's shoulder. I don't carry rifles when I go camping, shotguns either, unless I'm hunting with 'em. I ain't THAT paranoid. I like to have a light, powerful handgun on the trail, though. Mostly, it may be needed for the same reasons it may be needed in the city. However, I do carry a 4" K frame usually, not that much heavier than the SP101 and more accurate for small game if I wanted to use it for that. I carry a couple of cylinders of magnums for it and several cylinders worth of light .38s. Shot loads are a waste of space, don't need no stinkin' shot loads. I carry on a belt in a flap style holster when out and about.

Bears? I ain't worried about bears even in bear country, but I have it if I do need it and my SP101 would be effective on bears inside 50 yards. I ain't gonna shoot at one further than that. Actually, if I have to ever shoot at a bear, it'll be in the ground to run him off and that'll likely do the trick. If he's still charging inside 25, well, that's snubby range for sure....for me anyway. I think I'd rather have to deal with killing a man than killing a bear out of season with no license/tag. OUCH! 30 days in the electric chair, for sure!
 
I had an SP101, and it was waaaay sturdier than my S&W J-frames. I use the J-frames for pocket duty, or back up to a larger revolver. If my 1 gun were going to be a snubby it would definately be the Ruger. Being larger it would be easier to shoot, and you can beat the hell out of it without worrying about any delicate parts to break.

Don't carry a gun in your back pocket, bad idea in so many ways. A snubby is so easy to conceal in an IWB, OWB, shoulder or neck holster as it is.
 
Another nod for sp101

They are heavier, stronger and dampen recoil well. I have had a couple that have been swimming with me, and the only thing that was ever ruined was the front sight, which I would probably change anyway. This will give you the versatility to fire the heaviest .357s as well as .38s forever. I have not ever been able to wear one out.

Shooter429
 
It is a Scandium .38/.357MAG and weighs less than 12 oz. empty.

I can shoot .38+P out of it just fine, but the recoil on the .357MAG is just a bit much, although I would have no problem contolling my shot placement at 15 yards (at least enough to get the job done - it aint a target pistol)

Your a better man than me then, because I shot a S&W scandium loaded with .357's once, and it was the most unpleasant shooting gun that I have ever shot. I really, really didn't like shooting it, and I am anything but recoil sensitive. Barring someone throwing me a scandium pistol and me having to use it to save my life, I will never shoot one again. On the plus side, it really was very light, and I can see where carrying it would be a delight.

By way of recommendation, I daily carry a Taurus 605, and I have taken it into the woods with me quite a bit as well. I like the 605 revolvers, and am 100% satisfied with them. I know hardcore backpackers like to save every ounce possible, but I personally think that the additional weight of a regular old snubby is worth it, especially given that you will want to practice with it. Also, a scandium revolver isn't going to poke you in the butt any less! Finally, water resistance is, in my mind, a non-issue. Any revolver or auto is going to be able to get wet and stay wet for a relatively long amount of time without incurring any signifigant damage, if indeed there is any damage done at all. Your bigger concern there is the ammo, but there are steps that can be taking to reduce the chances of water damage.
 
My idea of an ideal woods 'packin pistola' is not a snubby - it is a S&W 625MG in .45 Colt. I like the 255gr LSWC and the Speer #4484 250gr Gold Dot (See below - and leave the .45 Schofields home!) for protection - 820-840 fps is sufficient for anything/one I'd encounter here in the SE. The lower version, a '96 vintage with the S&W Dymondwood Combats would be my choice - the '01 vintage actually being my first-ever S&W. Sure, a 39.5 oz N-frame would need a holster or fanny pack... no pocket carry for that one!

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Oops on the 325 gaff but the gun tested was a 3?? with the
Scandium frame and Ti cylinder in .357 Mag.

Heck the 325PD is only 26.5 oz w/Ahrens wood
grips GUess I'll start a thread about em.
 
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