Chunky Snubbies: Fish nor Fowl or Sliced Bread?

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  1. Fiv3r

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    This thread kinda piggybacks off the Big Bore Snubbie one from a couple of days ago, but it's just different enough I thought it might be worth a short discussion.

    By "Chunky Snubbie" I mean a revolver less than 3" (or maybe equal to, as I find that a bit debatable but I'm not a hardliner on it. Being 3" may even make it "chunky" by definition) that goes against the grain and philosophy of what a snub nose excels at. Basically, being packable and concealable.

    There are a few different ways they may do this. Maybe they shoehorn another round above what is normal for their frame size. Maybe the are chambered in a cartridge that just isn't usually married to a gun that compact. They, in theory, trade off the convenience of what a J frame offers and neuter the performance of a longer barrel. They are, as the title implies, neither fish nor fowl.

    But dang it...I kinda adore them.

    I see them as a compromise, as a gun with the corners cut enough that I will actually pack one around. I have had well over a dozen 4-4+" barreled revolvers and nearly all of them are gone. I dont keep range toys. If I will not carry a gun either in the streets or on the trail then it goes to the chopping block. I simply won't dress around 4" of barrel.

    Conversely, my snub nose collection has grown with each purchase. Three Charter Arms, a couple of NAA minis as back ups, I think I still have a j frame airweight somewhere in the collection. However, my eye is drawn toward the unique, the disproportionate, the gargantuan for its class. Where it would be reasonable to concede that the trade offs are greater than the benefits, I see an advantage over the j frame worth the effort, be it energy or magnitude of firepower as I rarely pocket carry a revolver making the size of a j frame mostly moot on a belt.

    The prime examples in my collection are my Charter Arms Pitbull in .45 acp that holds 5 rounds without the need of a moon clip and sports a 2.5" barrel. My other example is the 686+ I picked up yesterday. Nearly identical in dimensions to the Pitbull but holds 7 rounds of .357 and weighs nearly twice as much. I have also said that if I ever saw a .45 colt Bulldog XL in the wild, I would be all over it. I just really gravitate toward stubby guns.

    As for the new 686+, it's kind of funny. I stopped in the LGS the other day to unload a couple of guns that I hadn't shot in a couple of years. I ended up getting a better trade on them than I was expecting. I was thinking about another Charter Undercover. However with my trade in value, I got the itch to replace my 4" 686 i sold off foolishly 10 years ago, and almost pulled the trigger on the one they had under the glass. Then i saw the 2.5" 686+ sitting next to it. They had it on special, so I opted to take a look at it. If felt identical to the 4" but just seemed to hang in my hand like an old friend. I dunno if it is the bigger cylinder and shorter barrel but it felt much more neutral than the 4" 686 or 66 I was eyeing.

    So, an inch an a half shorter makes it so that it doesn't stick out under my shirt and it carries that "sneaky" 7th shot. Thumbing back the hammer or dry firing double action makes it feel just like my old lost friend. I had to take it home.

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    Group shot of the two big snubbies with my "always carry" Black Widow. New grips for the 686+ are coming tomorrow. I'm holster shopping today.

    I have come to the conclusion that I AM a snubbie guy. I don't hunt. I dont shoot from a bench at 50 yards. I carry and I shoot at combat distances at the range. I walk in the woods in a part of the country where the extra oomph out of a longer barrel isn't needed. The convenience of a shorter barrel outweighs the lack of performance compared to its longer brethren. As long as they are heavy steel, I shoot a 2" snubbie just as well as a 4" at 10-15 yards.

    So, what say you all? What is your stance on the Chunky Snubbie? Be it .357, .44, or some flavor of .45.
     
  2. SteadyD

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    I, too, like short barreled revolvers. Put a S&W 327 PC on your list. Given your tastes, I think you’ll like it.
     
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    When I read “Chunky Stubbies” I immediately thought of my 327 Night Guard. 2.5” barrel. 8 shots of .357 Magnum. It’s a little different...

    Here it is with another favorite gun of mine:

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  4. chicharrones

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    Congrats on the new 686+, Fiv3r. :thumbup:

    Oh, how I'd love to have an 8 shot .357 mag snubby in either a Ruger Redhawk or a S&W 627. :cool:
     
  5. Armored farmer

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    Yes, I'm shopping for a chunky snub too. I'm looking for a 2.5" s&w 66, but the 3" gp100 unfluted 7shot is on my list too. It would compliment my sp101 nicely.

    The 5shot .44special gp100 looks good, but I dont have any other .44s.
     
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  6. Anchorite

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    I have a few “snubbies” in 357, and a few .38s. Mine are 2-3/4 and I can’t figure out the big deal with the 3” guns.
     
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    I’m wanting a double action .357 and I have a few things on the hit list and I’m waiting for a deal to pop up. The one that keeps popping up is one nobody recommends, but firmly fits into the chunky snubby category. Taurus 608. N frame size, 8 shots of .357, short barrel, beautiful after some adjustment. It’s a pipe dream though. Too many expenses coming for the next year, not to mention starting a new job and hopefully moving.
     
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    Does the 2.75" guns have enough ejector rod to completely eject .357s?
     
  9. Zendude

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    If you carry owb then chunky snubby is no problem. I carry iwb, so I can’t make a chunky snubby work for me. If I carried owb, I would be carrying a Colt Cobra.
     
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    Hmmm. Haven’t noticed, nor thought about that. Thanks for giving me a reason to go play in the safe today, my friend!
     
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    My chunkiest snubby is a mere K-frame .38. I thought about carrying it, but then I remembered I can't hit anything with snubnoses. There, I said it. I feel much better now that the secret is out in the open. I can shoot a short-barreled semi-auto just fine, but not a revolver. 4" and 6" barrels are no problem, but less than that and I'm a miserable failure. Please don't kick me out of the forum; I like it here.
     
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    Know what you mean. Have both snubbies and chunky snubbies.

    The snubbies are a M37 Airweight and a steel CA Undercover. The CA is the favorite because it soaks up recoil better and the triggers, both DA and SA, are excelent. The M37 seems almost too dainty for the task.

    In the chunky snubby dept. there's a 6-shot CA Police Undercover, a 3" SP101 and a M69 2.75" that hasn't been shot yet. The CA is the favorite for now, it's still pocket-able, accurate, ergonomically excellent, and the triggers are OK. The SP101 is actively disliked because the sight regulation is so poor. Probably should go back to Ruger. If the triggers (DA and SA) weren't so good, I'd get rid of it.

    The M69 will probably never see full-pwr magnums while I own it. Plan to load magnum brass with hot 44 Spcl. Loads and carry with that. So far, I like the trigger but it's too early to say more.

    Among the chunkies, the 6-shot CA is the favorite so far. Pocket carry works best with cargo pants, but it's heavy enough that you know it's on board.
     
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    My chunky snub is a S&W 627 PC 2.62 bbl with 8 shots of 357 mag. small snubby charter arms 5 shot off duty from the 70s
     
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    How about a Charter Arms, 44 Bulldog with the classic 3" barrel?

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    A little bigger than a J-frame, but not much. Three inch barrel, five shots of 44 Special. Those wood knuckle busters have been removed and a set of Charter neoprene grips installed.

    It will let you know you're fired something, I can tell you that.
     
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    Take it out and practice with it. Don’t stress over it or make it a competition. Just shoot it. After a while you will be much better with it.
     
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    I'm glad so many of y'all are in the same boat. I thought they may be a bit more polarizing. I get the fact that they dont play well IWB, but I can't pack anything wider than an inch IWB without it bugging me. It's part of the reason I rely so heavily on my NAA as a primary carry gun at times.

    I also know they aren't as easy to be accurate with. I am by no means a good shot. Passable at best. However I think the reason I dont totally suck with a snubbie (or at least suck as bad with a snubbie as I do a 5") is because I tend to shoot instinctively over aimed. The length of the barrel seems to throw you off less if you aren't really relying on the sights to dial in your shot. Bullseye accurate? Of course not. Tea saucer center mass at 10 yards? Yeah that's doable.

    Loving the pics in the thread:)

    I was able to snag a left hand high and tight owb L frame holster built for 2.5" barrels at the LGS. That kinda surprised me. However, it's very comfy and conceals just fine under my flannel. Kinda funny how if you take a 2lb short revolver and tip it 15 degrees, it just disappears.
     
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    The 4" S&W revolvers won't fully eject a 357 case. In fact, they won't 'fully' eject a 38 Special. They are about 1mm shy.
     
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    I have a number of K and L frame snubbies, and they are about my favorites.

    That said, Id love to come across something like an old chopped down 1917 S&W.

    Ive carried my 686 and 696 AIWB a few times with no troubles or discomfort. Maybe try that if it isnt working for you off to the side.

    I have a 4" S&W 620, and a 2.5" 686+, both 7 shooters. I had two 686 snubbies, one was a six shot, and it took me a little while to decide which one to keep. I like the 620, and decided the 686+ would make more sense, same speed loaders, etc, so thats the one I kept.

    The only thing about both those guns that I still really havent gotten past, is that seventh shot. I still pretty regularly find loaded rounds on the ground mixed in with my brass when I go to pick it up. Seems my brain is still wired to dump them after 6, even if its done subconsciously.
     
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    They all will usually eject the empty cases, even the slightly sticky ones, with any length barrel, if you do the reload properly.

    That requires a quick, firm, "slap" to the ejector rod with the palm of your hand when you hit it. You also want the muzzle straight up as well when you do it.
     
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    "Among the chunkies, the 6-shot CA is the favorite so far. Pocket carry works best with cargo pants, but it's heavy enough that you know it's on board."

    This is a plus and nice to know.
     
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    Waiting on the release of this:

    ;)
     
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    if you can, demo one of the new Colt revolvers and see if that solves your accuracy issues.
     
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