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Record Texas Buck

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Art Eatman, Oct 13, 2010.

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  1. Art Eatman

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  3. Art Eatman

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    Sceptical? Of what?

    One thing for sure: Plenty of people have seen the buck. I imagine that if there were anything phony, that would be all over the Internet.

    FWIW, Webb County has historically produced a very high percentage of large bucks in Texas. My father hunted down in that brush country from back in the 1930s on until the 1960s. A fair number of stories of bucks that field-dressed around 200 pounds, with racks in the mid-20-inch size.

    Back 35 years ago, driving up the highway through the King Ranch, I saw a buck that whose horns were notably out past his ears. A good 24", at least. Even from the car he looked to be at least a 10- if not a 12-pointer. And that was long before all this "scientific deer management" stuff.

    The thing about the brush country is that any buck which gets past the young'n'stupid stage can easily hide out from hunters--and grow seriously big.
     
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    I don't believe for one minute that Oswald shot Kennedy. :neener:
     
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    Thats a big antlered deer for sure. But I have to ask.............so what? I don't get the fascination with antlers. Now quality of meat, yeah I get that. I have shot big deer on the farm as a kid, but guys just sawed the antlers off and nailed them up inside the barn. My dads barn probably has 6-8 sets that would go over 150 some probably 25 points higher yet, nobody cared 15-20 years ago.
     
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    IMHO, setting up a feeder is definitely manipulation: what you put in it is additional protein they wouldn't be getting otherwise....and knowing that, i'm inclined to be skeptical of every other thing they say, except that it's darn big and got shot.
     
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    It's not hunting anymore!

    Sorry, but I never could get excited over shooting a deer over feed, and that is how 90% of the deer are taken in Texas. If I wanted to do that I would just drive out onto my BIL's land and shoot his cows.
     
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    Fair chase is fair chase ; ) PS AWSOME DEER
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    I never did understand the difference between a feeder, and hunting over a cultivated food plot. How is throwing some corn on a sendero different from hunting a bean field or shooting deer coming to a farmer's corn field?
     
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    Other than if it is legal or not in your state, absolutely none whatsoever!!! You accomplish the exact same fact, attraction of game to a certain spot!! I guess some can't seem to get that through their thick skulls for some odd reason.
     
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    That is an awesome deer.
     
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    Nice deer, seen some big ones here where I am working in Jasper, Texas. And while maybe its not "intentional" but there are too many game ranches and other property owners in Texas importing breeding stock out of Northern States/Canada to garantee that is a 100% Texas buck without genetic testing.
     
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    it's because people are jealous of the deer quality in texas... so they whine about deer coming into feeders.

    I would like to see *anyone* do a spot and stalk where that deer was killed. You can't see 20 feet into most of the brush down there. It's not the same kind of hunting, because it's not the same kind of area.
     
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    Its a bit different if you are baiting them to a 6 foot circle, rather than a 120 acre field.
     
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    What a deer. Question though how did a anemic Texas buck carry that set of head gear around:neener:. Just messin when we were in Texas a couple weeks ago I counted 237 deer in 4 days. Granted most of these were probably seen multiple times either through my spotting scope or up close near my stand. When compared to Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri; Texas deer are pretty small body wise. Anyhow great buck.
     
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    Why? What's so different about it? Magnitude of the bait? I'm curious why a 6 foot plot of Biologic is legal, but a 6 foot circle of corn is immoral.
     
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    ^ THis should answer your question. For anyone with experience farming you will know the difference immediately. The concentration of food in a small area is what causes deer to come to that area to feed. In a field, you typically don't get those concentrations, grain is spread out over a large area. A small patch of clover (biologic as you stated) is not going to be as appealing as a small patch of corn. It simply doesn't have the nutritional value as the same amount of corn. Put a little hay and a little corn in from of some cattle and see what gets eaten first.

    I see baiting as a crutch for poor hunting skills, just my opinion. But why else would you need to entice deer to come to you, thats not hunting, thats waiting.
     
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    He cared enough to hang them in the barn. I could easily post your sentiments 6 months out of the year, and then I start looking at the trailcam pics and realize that I want that big rack. Once I get it, then it will be about the meat. That's what the rest of the tag is for.
     
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    +1. It's not like your getting them to the feed like I do in the Hill Country (no apologies for it), In webb County your just trying to get them to cross a shooting lane. That is thick, flat, thorny, ugly greesewood & misquite country down Laredo way. If they don't hear a dinner bell to get them moving, you are going home empty handed.
     
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    I don't think I've ever seen this posted by a Texan. I wonder, if feeders were legal in your state, if the same "passion for the fair hunt" would be such a dominant concern.

    It is what it is. I don't have the only feeder. All the neighbors have them as well, which makes my prospects no different than yours. For all the feeders, Texas has one of the most populous deer density counts in the country. A lot of hunters, even with those feeders, go home empy handed. Just like Georgia.

    To make it truly fair for the animal, take your accordian & bathe in High Karate before your hike into the wild.
     
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    I'm not trying to make it fair for the animal, I'm trying to kill the animal, and I don't need to lure them in with bait to do it.
    If you could see the "barn" you would change your mind. :)
     
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    Gotta dissagree here, corn is of low nutritional value, it is the icecream of deer food.

    I see no problem with any style of hunting but anticipate the debate and infighting will continue...
    Nice deer.
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    what some of you do not understand, is that a corn or protein feeder makes up a very small percentage of what white tails eat. It is like taking vitamins... or eating candy.

    do you like it? yes. is that all you eat? no.

    The real benefit of feeding pays off during drought years though. You can tell that the amount of feed goes way up when there is little to no rain.


    I guess it is different attracting them to a feeder than a food plot... because it's not like a common deer rifle can shoot very far..:rolleyes:

    the bottom line is that a lot of people in texas want big deer, and they know what it takes to get them. primarily AGE, second nutrition and genetics.

    if you're pleased shooting 1.5 year old deer year after year that are so stupid you could walk up to them and convince them to commit suicide, that's fine.

    personally, I like going after the big, old, mature deer. I want big horns.
     
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    that buck is amazing. this thread has become a feeder thread. Was the buck shot under a feeder?
     
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    it depends where you are. The average mature buck on my lease weighs about 200 lbs. we have killed deer up to 240 lbs.

    the deer in the hill country are very small, most weigh less than 100 lbs.
     
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