Reliability Tweaks1: Make it Smooth

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In response to several requests for reliability tweaking and tuning, I figured that it would be a good idea to break it into several threads instead of trying to put it all on one long one. Taking it one section at a time tends to negate boredom and it lets other tweakers kick in some of their own methods and practices without undue confusion. Everybody
has their own favorite things, and all are invited to contribute.

The first thing that I do with any new or used pistol is to detail strip it and clean it. You'd be shocked at how many lemons that are turned into lemonade with nothing more than a good scrubbing. You'd also be shocked
at the amount of trash that I've found in NIB pistols.

The next step is to determine whether the pistol cycles smoothly, or if there are any overly tight areas that could hamper the operation. For this step, assemble the slide, barrel, and bushing, but leave the trigger group and recoil system on the table. Oil everything lightly, including the locking lugs and slidestop pin and link.

Push the pistol into battery firmly, and tilt the muzzle up at a 45 degree angle. The slide should move fully rearward under its own weight. Tilt the muzzle downward, again at a 45 degree angle, and the slide should return to full battery. This is done to insure that there isn't anything in the fit of the major parts that would interfere with free movement. This is known as the 30-minute break-in. 500 rounds not required.

If the pistol doesn't pass the test, mix up the slurry recipe and generously coat the locking lugs, the lower barrel lug and link, the slidestop pin, the sides of the barrel in the chamber area, and the inside of the bushing. Hand-cycle the assembly 200 times, rinse with carburetor cleaner, allow it to air-dry for about 15 minutes, oil and retest. Unless there's something wrong in the mechanical timing of the barrel linkdown, it should pass.

This can also be used on pistols that are tightly fitted. It mainly hits the high spots and polishes them instead of opening up clearances. For an extremely tight gun, use straight J&B Bore Cleaner and 50 hand-cycles to open everything up a half-thousandth, and follow with the slurry for an additional 100 cycles.

Reassemble the pistol to feel the difference. Now would be a good time to check the clearance between the top of the dust cover and the slide. Remove the recoil spring and push the slide back toward full recoil travel in small increments. Check at each point with a .007 inch feeler gauge. The gauge should be an easy slip fit along the length of the dust cover. If there are tight spots noted, use a 6-inch smooth mill file to provide
clearance by laying it crossways on the top of the dust cover and drawing it toward you in light, smooth strokes. Stop short of bringing it off the end to prevent making a bevel on the corner of the dust cover. If one side is tight, and the other lets the gauge in, just bias the pressure toward the tight side, using the good side as a guide. Check the clearance every two strokes to keep from going too far. This will go a long way toward negating the dust cover cracking adjacent to the frame rails. Use the edge of a medium stone to break the sharp corners on the dust cover, and touch it up with cold blue if you like.

Luck!

Tuner
 
OK. At the risk of getting ahead of the instructor, I gotta question.

Should the slide completely clear the hammer in recoil? I notice on my SA 1911A1 that the slide slightly depresses the hammer when passing over it.
In fact, the hammer is not square to the slide, the shiny spot is on the right side of the hammer.

I'm beginning to notice more and more stuff about my 1911. I just read the springs thread. It's a real zen kinda thing. Perfect for someone in California


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Wait wait wait!

I thought the dust cover was the portion of the slide that hung down below the muzzle.

I just went all through Kuhnhausen, and couldn't find "dust cover".

So, 'Tuner, where's the dust cover?
 
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Riley asked:

Should the slide completely clear the hammer in recoil? I notice on my SA 1911A1 that the slide slightly depresses the hammer when passing over it.
In fact, the hammer is not square to the slide, the shiny spot is on the right side of the hammer.

Howdy RIley.

Yep. The slide will push the hammer slightly beyond full cock. In fact,
when the slide recoils, the hammer is slammed backward briskly enough
to make contact with the grip safety, which is why some shooters notice a
light contact point or even a small ding on the top of the safety tang.

The uneven wear point on your hammer suggests that either the hammer pin wasn't drilled straight through the frame, or the hammer face was
machined catty-wampus. You can check the hammer with a machinist's
square. If the hammer face is square, it's the pin. The other possibility is
that the disconnector or cocking rail in the slide isn't square. The rail
is the least likely. Without being able to see the gun, my bet is on the hammer. If it's MIM, it may not have been finish-machined.

It +shouldn't+ be a problem unless the pin shows heavy wear on
one side. If the out-of-square condition is bad enough to start to
egg-shape the hole in the hammer and/or cut a groove in the pin, it
needs to be addressed. Inspect it when you detail strip the gun...In
your case, I'd do that about every 500 rounds. If it looks like it's going to be a problem, let Springfield warranty it.
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Hey Jammer! Good to hear from ya.

The dust cover is the thin half-round extension in front of the frame rails.
It's also known as the spring tunnel, and it's prone to cracking at the
junction with the rails if there isn't a little clearance. What happens is that,
as the slide smacks the impact surface in the frame, the front of the frame
flexes a little and makes contact with the slide. Sometimes tis leaves a
mark on the slide in the radius just under the flat, where the recoil spring
plug resides.

Onward....

Tuner
 
Surry

Howdy Albin,

It's a secret recipe known only to...wait a minute! Wrong recipe.:rolleyes:

Get a small tub of original J&B Bore Cleaner, and a small bottle of CLP
Breakfree. (Mil-Spec LSA weapons oil will work, too) Put about a
a teaspoonful of the borecleaner in a small cup and mix the oil with it
will just sag off the end of a screwdriver without dripping. Let it stand
uncovered overnight to let the carrier evaporate.

Works well in bolt-action rifle raceways and for seating the bolt lugs too.
A thinner mixture in the lockwork of a double-action revolver and about
150-200 hand cycles while riding the hammer down will slick things up
a lot. Polish the rebound slide on a medium stone first, and get a little
slurry under it before you button it up. Rinse well with carburetor cleaner and oil lightly.

Luck!

Tuner
 
It works!

Used the slurry on my milspec, to loosen it up.

It works VERY well, and the weapon now passes the Tuner Gravity Test!

Thanks, Tuner!

It still hesitates when it comes in contact with the hammer, though.

Should I slurry the hammer/disconnector rail contact point?

My guess is no...

Thanks again, Tuner, the weapon now runs reliably!
 
Good Stuff Maynard...

1911Tuner,

Thanks!

Now I prefer to write with black ink.

So that Blue Marker I gots is for a new gun/or one "not quite behaving". Okay sometimes I just like to write on a gun...

If'n I feel some tight spots, I mark say the rails, cycle attempting the 30 second test. If I see "shine" I have a better idea where the problems are. Slurry ,clean, and if marked in blue again I rarely see these problem areas. IF one does usually time for the calipers to see where the mfg goofed up.

Oh...can we get a Moderator to sticky these- Please?

Steve
 
Hammer

Jammer said this about his Hammer:

>It still hesitates when it comes in contact with the hammer, though.<
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Hesitates when? As the slide is cycled and cocking the hammer?
Is the side of the hammer making contact with the slide? Details man!
We need details!

Oh...and for the record. The "Gravity Test" has been around since the
birth of the AMU...and the refitting of tightened slides and frames.
Sometime around 1930, I believe it was.

Cold-fitting is another one...The practice of using lap and a hammer or length of 2x4 to force the slide onto a frame. Generally bad JuJu. A quick and dirty method that shouldn't be done unless it has to be done in an itchin' hurry. Much better to prefit wth file and stone to get the slide on the frame...and lightly finish-lap to get things smooth and workin' right. To each his own, though...
 
FULL FUNCTION

Tuner, my friend, it functions fine.

It passes the gravity test, exactly as you taught it to me.

With only the barrel, bushing, and slide stop installed, at a 45 degree angle, it will retract completely, very smoothly, and 45 degrees down returns it completely to battery.

Fully assembled, racking it by hand, it feels "crunchy", and it gets much stiffer as soon as the slide hits the hammer. It doesn't feel the least bit crunchy with only the barrel, bushing and slide stop installed.

It does touch, there is contact between the slide and the hammer.

It functions fine, I just wish it weren't so darn STIFF when the hammer hits the disconector rail of the slide.

I'm getting spoiled... :D

Took 100 cycles, with slurry, cleaned and degreased with brake cleaner at fifty cycles.

Should I slurry the slide/hammer contact point?

Many thanks, old man, you did it again! :cool:
 
Jammer's Hammer

Quotes:

<Fully assembled, racking it by hand, it feels "crunchy", and it gets much stiffer as soon as the slide hits the hammer.<

That's 'cause rackin' the slide cocks the hammer against the mainspring's resistance.
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It does touch.

Relieve the hammer a little on the touchin' side.
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It functions fine, I just wish it weren't so darn STIFF when the hammer hits the disconector of the slide.

That helps delay the slide's initial movement when the gun fires. I use a small-radius firing pin stop to delay it a little more. Makes'em sweeeeeeeeeeet.:cool:
 
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