Reload storage in safe with Goldenrod. Lil hot

[jeeptim]

Hey fellas got a Goldenrod safe dehumidifier mounted and wired seems a lil hot to hot to hold.
I have a large safe guns ammo important papers and some $$
The safe is fire rates from the outside.
Any thoughts?
Thanx

 

[MikeInOr]

Put a thermometer in the safe and see what temperature the Goldenrod keeps the inside of the safe at? A "lil hot" doesn't reference very well.

 

[jeeptim]

So the rod is to hot to hold thinking about 150°

 

[MikeInOr]

I would expect guns, ammo, powder and paper money to all be fine at 150 degrees. I use desiccant in my safe instead of a heater.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

The rod is meant to keep the inside of the safe warm enough so humidity is forced out so things don't rust. At first, it worried me some also and I kept nice rifle stocks away from it. However, over many years I haven't had it hurt anything.

Give it a little room if that helps your peace of mind but I think you're good unless there is a malfunction in the design.

 

[AJC1]

I would not store primers powder or loaded ammunition in a safe that hot. To be honest that's just the combination for the largest pipe bomb ever. I did it myself before I thought about it for a while.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

My Dri Rods are uncomfortable to hold. A contact thermometer shows them to be 130 degrees, which is what the manufacturer says they should be.

 

[George P]

I use both a Golden Rod and 3 big desiccant boxes..............yes, it can get a tad warm to hold, which means it is working..........

 

[jeeptim]

Ohen thanx for the info.
The safe is big 6w x6h 30 deep.
What really worries me is the thousands of rounds most packed in ammo cans. The interior of the safe is cloth covered partical board and the door covered in nylon all really flammable.
I can be a lil over cautious .
Again thanx

 

[George P]

Why do you have ammo in air-tight cans in your safe? The heat form that rod is nothing, especially compared to the heat in the ME. That said, if that ammo is in the metal GI-type cans AND you have a house fire, you might very well end up with a big bomb. I do not store ammo in my safe - simply no room - but if I did, it would be in the cardboard boxes or and the most, a plastic version of the GI cans that will "let go" if subjected to a fire

 

[ColtPythonElite]

If the safe is fire rated, I would think it is cloth covered drywall or gypsum board and not particle board.

 

[SlowFuse]

The rod is meant to keep the inside of the safe warm enough so humidity is forced out so things don't rust. At first, it worried me some also and I kept nice rifle stocks away from it. However, over many years I haven't had it hurt anything.

Give it a little room if that helps your peace of mind but I think you're good unless there is a malfunction in the design.

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Even on a smaller safe the temp will only rise a few degrees above ambient temp. That's exactly what its supposed to do. Keep it in the bottom. I have mine at the front right below the door opening.

I'd also be one to suggest removing the bulk of the ammo from the safe. Consider a box/crate without a tight sealing lid. I have some loaded mags and a few random boxes of ammo in the safe but that's about it.

 

[rfwobbly]

Even on a smaller safe the temp will only rise a few degrees above ambient temp. That's exactly what its supposed to do. Keep it in the bottom. I have mine at the front right below the door opening.

Exactly. The physical heater may be at 130°F, but a lot of energy is lost during the transfer to the surrounding air. Then, even more is lost through the "fire proof" walls. Even if the safe's door was shut for years, the air in the safe would never get near the temperature of the heater.

As long is the guns and ammo are not touching the heater, you're going to be OK.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I would not store bulk ammo inside airtight cans inside your safe. Same for powder and primers.

 

[Highland Lofts]

For any concerns I'd contact the manufacturing company's customer service or their tech support and talk directly with them with your concerns and talk to them about safe distances for firearms. Ask about safe storage of ammo and distances for ammo from heater.
Personally I wouldn't store loaded ammo in a heated safe. If you want your ammo locked up go out and buy a cheaper safe for your ammo, primers in a seperate srorage unit and gun powder in a seperate storage unit.

As long as it is dry and at room tempeture it will last for decades. I know guys that reload out in there unheated garage and store all ofvtheir reloading stuff, loaded ammo and guns out there and it reaches over 95 degrees in the summer and in the winter the outside temps gets near zero degrees.

Needless to say the have moisture problems. The press, dies and all other bare metal surfaces will start to rust. They have constintly check stuff out and keep every thing wiped down with a oil bace lubicant.
If they had a little heat source to keep the inside of garage up to 45 -50 degrees would eliminate the moisture problem, but that would never happen.

The tens of thousands of dollars I have invested in all of my reloading equipment, firearms and accesaries are all stored in a big walk in closet, whrn it comes to this investment I wear the pants in the house. No way would I be told by the other half to store them in a uncontrolled envirorment.

For your storage arrangment having all of that loaded ammo in that heated safe would be alarming to my. Just my personal thoughts.