reloading 9mm

[trigga]

i recently bought a new Beretta 92fs a couple weeks ago. I have been collecting and purchasing brass as they are readily available at the moment. Yesterday I went to this one reloading shop thirty minutes away looking for powder and could not find what I was looking for. They had a few powders for rifles and shotguns but not a wide variety in pistol. I did manage to pick up 1k box of cci 500 SPP for a reasonable price and a 100 pk of 9mm bullets.

It was worth the drive because they have almost everything you needed to load including press, dies, and components. They are an online retailer and I believe their inventory is up to date because I did check online before I went. I'll be paying them another visit when powder comes in.

The bullets are Winchester 124 gr FMJ. I plan on using Xtreme Bullets copper plated in perhaps the same grain or maybe 147 gr. Anyhow, I was wonder if I load the fmj to the plated specs, when I actually get the plated bullets (124 gr), will the performance be the same? This will primarily be for target shooting and nothing too fancy... Too bad I missed their last 10% off sale.

Since I can't find any powder, I still have a pound of bullseye left. I know it will work for 9mm but is it a good choice for the 124 gr? I was hoping to get a big jug of aa no. 5 but until then, bullseye is all I have.

 

[JRWhit]

Watch bullet diameter. Many of the copper plated bullets are sized .001 over barrel diameter like lead. Copper jacketed will not be. I would not use jacketed data on copper plated expecting the same result. Alliant has data for Speer GDHP on there website. I'll check one of my manuals for others in a few.

 

[trigga]

sorry for the mistake, I was talking about using plated date to load the jacketed bullets I currently have, not the other way around. I plan on buying a couple thousand copper plated when they have another sale. Both the bullets will be .355. the 147 gr are .356 so I might just stick to the 124 gr. I only have the lee manual and it doesn't suggest bullseye.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Bullseye may work, but I prefer to use a more bulky powder, as it is sooo easy fir a new reloaded to double or triple charge a case with Bullseye. I use promo and unique for 9mm and because Unique doesn't meter well, I charge the cases, then look into the case mouths, comparing the level of powder for all the cases, and pull out any cases that look to be lower or higher than the norm, and weigh them.
The OAL you end up with may be different for each of your different projectiles, depending in the shape, or ogive of the projectile.
I also ALWAYS run my finished rounds through a Wilson case gauge to ensure All the rounds will chamber effortlessly, as I gave found brass that was stretched and not detectable to the naked eye, that would not enter into the case gauge.

 

[Steve H]

I'm not trying to be a smart ass.............if you are new to reloading your first couple of purchases should be reloading manuals.

 

[JRWhit]

For a 124gn XTP I show a start of 3.9gn, and a NE of 4.4gn. XTP data is typically higher than other jacketed projectiles.
If your using plated data you should be in the safe zone for copper jacketed bullets.

It looks as though Bullseye favors lighter bullets. I'm not seeing much for anything over 115gn.

Give it a few and some more seasoned patrons will weigh in.

 

[sexybeast]

Bullseye will work fine. Alliant should have load data for 124-125gr fmj. Bullseye meters better than either Unique or especially Promo! Use the bullseye!
I remember when you posted about loading .40. If you have that down then 9mm should not be much more of a challenge.

 

[trigga]

thanks steve, my next purchase will be the lyman manual but I'm still trying to sum all what else I need to justify the shipping cost.

 

[Gadawg88]

http://www.amazon.com/Lyman-49Th-Ed...=UTF8&qid=1391962722&sr=8-1&keywords=Lyman+49

 

[trigga]

cool, free shipping. now i really have no excuse not to buy it.

 

[sexybeast]

For load data you don't need to buy Lymans 49th or any other manuel. Go to Alliants website and see what the manufacturer lists for load data. Start low and work up. You would think some members here own stock in Lyman.

 

[LiveLife]

Beretta 92fs ... Winchester 124 gr FMJ/Xtreme plated ... bullseye ... is it a good choice for the 124 gr?

Bullseye is a great choice for 9mm.

This will primarily be for target shooting

Bullseye is a fast burning powder that produces accuracy even when loaded light, good choice if you are looking for target loads.


Current Alliant Bullseye load data only lists Speer Gold Dot HP for 9mm but 2004 Alliant load data lists loads for 125 gr FMJ and lead bullets - http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=182147&d=1364769070

I have used lead load data and start/mid range jacketed load data with X-Treme plated bullets with good results. With 124 gr FMJ/plated RN bullets and 1.135" OAL, 3.8 gr start charge of Bullseye will cycle the slides of my Glocks and produce accurate shot groups. In addition to 2004 Alliant load data max of 4.9 gr for 125 FMJ/lead bullet, Lyman #49 lists 4.2 gr as max charge for 120 gr lead bullet and 4.5 gr as max charge for jacketed bullet so you should be OK to try 3.8, 4.0 and 4.2 gr and see how they work for your pistol.

Since Beretta 92fs typically run oversized barrels, 3.8 gr powder charge may not reliably cycle the slide.

 

[Dudedog]

Recobs has IMR 7625 in 1 pound jugs right now. (not much pistol powder around) Don't know how well it works with plated/jacketed bullets. I have used 3.8 grns behind MBC 125 LCNs in 9mm and they seem to shoot fine. Also seemed ok for .45 APC with lead bullets.

 

[leefan]

Can't find it now, but Titegroup is an excellent powder for all handgun loads.

 

[trigga]

The place I went to was recobs. Don't know if they're the same your talking about but there was quite a few imr selection

 

[splattergun]

trigga, you mentioned the LGS had some shotgun powders, but didn't mention which. Note that some shotgun powders are used for both pistol and SG, such as Longshot, Unique, and Universal. I have used these 3 with good results in my 9mm.

Research the load data pages at the manufacturers' sites and you will find a wealth of options.

 

[kc.38]

I see you are from Wi. Try Fleet Farm for Powder, primers, Manuals, and most any other reloading stuff. For primers they have CCI and Winchester Large/ small- pistol/rifle. Powder, they have Bullseye, IMR, Clays, Winchester, AA#5 and #7, Hodgdon, and the price is the same as Midway right off the shelf without hazard shipping. You will have to ask as they only have empty containers on the shelf. Why would you go anywhere else?

 

[celem]

...I still have a pound of bullseye left. I know it will work for 9mm but is it a good choice for the 124 gr? ...

Yes, Bullseye works fine for 9mm. However, don't ignore those shotgun powders - my most accurate 9mm load is with Green Dot powder.

 

[gamestalker]

Use jacketed data, for jacketed bullets. Other wise you run a risk of sticking a bullet in the barrel, bad ju, ju.

For plated use data that falls in between lead and jacketed, or better yet, call the bullet manufacturer for data.

GS