Reloading a Pump gun???

[usp_fan]

In a thread in the general forum on Cowboy shooters, pump gun reloading was talked about. One person mentioned an "Over the top" loading technique used by a CASS shooter and a winchester '97 vs. the "tactical" under the gun loading technique.

Help?

Anyone?

I'm a shotgun novice. All I know is you push shells in there untill they don't fit and then you pump.

Enlightenment is desired.

Thanks,

--usp_fan

 

[WhiteKnight]

It could be as simple as flipping the gun upside down as opposed to holding it in the ready position and thumbing in shells. I'm not sure.

 

[kudu]

What Whiteknight said would be my guess also. I also find it's about quicker to feed the shells into the port with the gun open one at a time once the gun is empty. Shooting one shot at a time this way is quite fast if your under the clock.

 

[SDC]

The "cowboy technique" is meant for cowboy action shooters, who are usually required to start a stage with an empty gun, so, they've found it's faster to just throw a shell in the ejection port for each shot, pump the bolt forward, then fire it and repeat the process. CAS doesn't usually involve more than 5 or 6 rounds from a shotgun at any one time (just so shooters with a side by side aren't duly disadvantaged). If you practice with this technique, you CAN get amazingly fast, but I think it still comes in second to an IPSC shooter with Tecloaders, which load 4 rounds at a time into the tube. Most 3-gunners will either stuff rounds into the tube from the bottom while they're going from position to position, unless they're using Tecloaders (which puts you in Open). HTH.

 

[Feanaro]

I have seen the technique employed before. There are probably other variants but this is what I've seen. You eject the spent shell(while the action is still open) and with the left hand(assuming you're right handed) reach over the receiver and throw a shell into the chamber. Bring the hand back and chamber the round. I've seen some people who could be REALLY fast with this. They usually have some shells in the pumping hand. I'm not sure how practical it is unless you have to shoot a lot of something though.

 

[MrTuffPaws]

Over the top loading is done in CAS because you are only allowed a max two shells in the gun at any one time. (correct me if I am wrong) To speed up loading, they just throw them into the ejection port, slide it home, fire, and repeat.

 

[Titus]

If you get OLN, you can see it being done on Cowboy Action Shooter.

 

[MrMurphy]

This is also called a tacload. When the gun goes "click" assuming you have no targets in front of you (where you'd switch to your pistol), you throw the first round in the ejection port, slap the pump handle forward (or release the bolt on a semi), so you have a round ready to fire if you're surprised while you're reloading the rest of the tube.

You feed the rest in with the gun at the shoulder, through the tube.

 

[Bix]

I believe the distinction is between two methods of tac or "port" loading. In both cases you've run the magazine empty and you are loading shells singly through the ejection port.

The "under the gun" technique is what we usually get shown in gunschool: [Assuming a right handed shooter] you tray the round in your left hand, palm up, brass to pinky, and bring your hand up from under the receiver to press the round into the ejection port.

The "over the top" technique is what we see the CAS guys doing - or, at least, that's what I've seen 'em doing: [Again, assuming right handed shooter], round is trayed in left hand, palm down, brass to index finger, and you bring you hand "over the top" of the receiver to plop the round in the port.

Frankly, I'm not sure where the doctrinal difference comes from. I've seen both techniques used well by experienced shooters. Maybe somebody with more experience than me will chime in......

 

[Henry47]

http://www.demibarbito.com/new.html

go to the links on the right side. i BELIEVE the 3 minute clip will show you how it is done, but I am not sure if that is the correct clip.