Reloading Beginner, what do i need?

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i would to begin reloading ammunition for my 30-06 and a few other calibers like my 30-30 and probably shotgun shells. I've been looking at alot of websites and I see a large amount of equipment and I am not sure exactly what I need to start reloading ammunition. I believe i need different dies for different calibers but can i use the same equipment? Letting me know the basics I need and other things that are helpful would be appreciated. thanks
 
an rcbs rockchucker master kit will come w/ most everything you need to start except dies (you need cartridge-specific dies), and nice optional equipment like a trickler, tumbler, and a caliper. the kit does come w/ the most excellent speer loading manual. you'll want to read this before you unpack your gear.

i believe the rockchucker is convertible to load shotgun shells, but i never tried it.

check out the handloading link in my signature - lots of info available there.
 
First and foremost, get a good reloading book. Invaluable information in there plus lots of load data.

Rifle and pistol dies use the same press. A Lee Anniversary kit will can get you started for less than $100 and you can always upgrade later if you really get into it and feel the need, but mine has served well for several years so far.

Shotshells use another type of press. I just started with those on a $40 Lee Load-All II, not too bad unless you're a high volume shooter. Again, you can get your feet wet without a lot of $.

I find it a very satisfying hobby, and I can justify a lot more range time testing out different loads.
 
My shpeal:
I got an RCBS Rockchucker kit and an RCBS Video, because I was overwhelmed with how to get started reloading.

If I were to advise someone on how to do it that was a friend, I would show him how, and then loan him enough stuff to do it at his home.

Telling someone how to do it on the internet, I would start out with the tasks that have to be done, and list the cheap tools to get, so the the guy can maintain a mental map of the goals:

38 Special [same die set and shell holder as 357 mag] is very easy and cheap to load, most people have one, and the guns have mountains of safety margin. They are a good place to start.

1) Get the old primer out of the case, called depriming or decapping.

2) Make the case small enough in inside diameter to grip a bullet and small enough on the outside to fit in the chamber. This is called resizing.
Both steps 1) & 2) are usually accomplished in one step as the resizing die has a decapping pin. This will require:
a) Shell holder ~$3 Lee #1 shell holder or ~$5 RCBS #6 shell holder.
The same size shell holder can be used later for 357 mag, 256 Win mag, etc.
b) A resizing die. This die will probably be bought in a kit with one, two, or three other dies. In straight wall cartridges, carbide resizing dies are available at an extra cost. It is always worth the extra to get carbide. Adjust the die [how far to screw it into the press] per the instructions that come with the die set.
Lee 3 die set for 38 special; $21 steel, $23 carbide
RCBS 3 die set for 38 special: $36
c) A press. Lee Reloader press $20 is a real cheapee, but will always find a use. RCBS Rockchucker $90 is a workhorse of the highest quality.

3) Clean the case. This step can be done with a couple twists of the wrist with steel wool, or expensive vibrators. Later when you get more tools, you will clean the primer pocket, but it is not needed.

4) Re prime the case.
a) One can buy a priming tool and do it in 2 seconds or fumble with the primer built into RCBS presses and do it 10 seconds.
Lee Auto prime II $13, RCBS priming tool $26
The two tools I mentioned use the same shell holder as used above in resizing. Beware that Lee also sells another priming system ["Lee auto prime" not "Lee auto primer II"] that uses special shell holders. I would avoid that system to start.
b) One must also buy, beg, borrow, or steal new primers.
To buy them mail order, one would have to pay a Hazardous Materials charge [Haz Mat]. Small purchases would be too expensive. Usually 100 primers can be purchased for $1 or $2 at the local gun store. Primers come in combinations of being; magnum or standard, pistol or rifle, and large or small. For 38 special, small pistol primers are what is needed, and will work with standard or magnum, but most published loads with be with standard primers.

5) Fill the case with powder. This is called charging the case. For this one will need powder and a way to measure powder. With black powder, one just fills the case, but with smokeless powder too much powder will fit. Start out using smokeless powder and measuring it. The amount to use depends on the bullet that will be used. The amount is published in load books, or better still on powder manufacturer's web sites for free.
a) Buy powder. There is the Haz Mat problem again, so off to the neighborhood gunstore. Any "pistol powder" will do. Expect to pay ~$20 for a pound in a gunstore. I like Bullseye or Unique powder made by Alliant, but AA#2 or AA#5 work just as well made by Accurate Arms, or Winchester 231, or Hodgdon HS-6, or Vihtavuori 3N37, or IMR SR7625, or dozens of others.
b) Measure the powder. This can be done with cheap plastic measuring cups with handles from Lee, but I would start out weighing the powder. The weighing scales: Lee Perfect powder measure $20, RCBS Uniflow Powder measure $60 [this tool is really nice]

6) Install the bullet. This is called seating the bullet.
a) Buy bullets. For 38 special, .357" diameter or .358" bullets are normally used. You can buy lead bullets or lead bullets covered with copper called jacketed bullets. I would start out with jacketed bullets. These will cost you 5 to 15 cents each and usually bought in 100's.
b) The seating die should have come in the reloading die kit. Put it in the press and put the primed and charged case in the shell holder. Set the bullet on top of the case and raise the ram [push down on the press lever]
c) Measure the over all length of the cartridge [OAL]. This can be done with a ruler, but is best done with dial calipers. Expect to pay $20 for some Chinese calipers or $100 for American.

7) Crimp the case into the bullet. This means the case must pinch the bullet so hard that recoil will not yank the bullet out when other chambers of the revolver are fired [or so the bullet will not get shoved deeper into the case from recoil in magazine or tube fed cartridge]. The type of crimp depends on the type of cartridge. The rimmed 38 special case should be roll crimped. The rimless 9mm cartridge should be taper crimped. The crimping step can be done in one step with the bullet seating, but I would start out doing it in two separate steps. The two steps look the same [cartridge goes into seating die], but can be different in how the seating die is adjusted. Again, adjust the die [how far to screw it into the press] per the instructions that come with the die set and with the seating die, there is also the adjustment of the seating stem [knurled knob on top of the die].

8) Take notes when you shoot your handloads. Write on the targets. Things like "125 gr. bullets shot way low, but 158 gr. bullets were right on." will come in handy next time you sit down to reload or buy bullets.

>From the above it looks like it will cost $110 to get started.
That is 1/3 of what it cost ME to get started.

There are more steps to loading a bottle shaped rifle cartridge, and even more to get them to be very accurate, but after one masters the 38 special, it will make more sense.
 
As stated above.....

buy a reloading manual..........in fact, buy two. That way you can cross reference your data..................second is a powder scale.............If you are a beginner, buy a single stage press........any make of die will work. I use just about everybody's dies.......chris3
 
I got the Lee Anniversary kit for $122 shipped from Midway. It came with dies. Then I needed powder ~$20, bullets ~20, primer ~$0, and my spent cases ~$0. It came with the Lee book which has been pretty good, but I'm a noob, so what do I know.

Then I found I needed a few things the set didn't come with: case trimmer length gage ~$5, bullet puller (still need, seems to cost about $20), crimp die (debateable) ~$8.

With that, for about $175 I was able to load up about 125 rounds so far without much trouble. The loads have been accurate and enjoyable to shoot. Ignoring the cost of the hardware, the brass, powder, primer and bullets run me less than $5 per 20 for .300 win mag. Now that's how to spend and save :D
 
As suggested, I'd get several reloading manuals and read them cover to cover before starting to load. The best single stage press (which is what I'd recommend for a beginner) for the money is the Lee Classic press. I'm sure that it will out last me, and is quite a value for the quality of press.
The next most important thing is an accurate, reliable scale. I'd recommend the Ohaus 10/10 over the new electronic scales, but that is my preference. I use mostly Lee dies, because I have found them to be of good value, precise, and easy to use. This advice is for pistol and rifle cartridges. Shotgun shells are another animal completely, and that Ohaus scale will still be used, but what my son and I did was to purchase Lee shotgun reloaders on eBay, some as cheap as $10.00, one for each shotgun caliber. So, we ended up with a 12, 16, and 20 gauge reloader for very little money, and we can crank out a couple of hundred shells an hour when we both work together. Plenty enough for us, and without much of an investment.
 
Do Your homework!!

Eric the Barbarian--Before you rush out and start buying equipment, there is something you need first: Knowledge!

I urge you to study up first--that way, you'll know what to buy and what you don't need.

IMHO, the BEST primer on reloading, bar none, is The ABC's of Reloading put out by Krause Publishing. www.krause.com they must be doing something right; the book is now in its 7th edition.

Buy it at yr local sptg gds sto, gun sho, the I'net, or order from the publisher @ their website.

This is not a reloading manual--you'll need at least one of those, too. This is a how-to and more importantly why-and-why-not-to type of book. Covers all aspects of reloading. VERY useful for the beginning reloader, but with depth to also inform an experienced reloader. Belongs on every reloader's bookshelf, well thumbed.
 
prolly the biggest variable

in startup costs is the press.Since you're looking at rifle cartridges first off,I'd get a heavy duty one like the Rock Chucker.Lots of mass and leverage to make the sizing operation go smoothe and easy.If you were able to test it side by side with a cheaper press,you'd know what I mean.
You'll only need to buy the RC once,guaranteed. It'll last forever.
 
True, my Lee press broke the other day. One of the cast toggle links was deffective. I looked at the crack (typical brittle failure) and the crystal structure was mostly good, but had a few pin-head size voids. I think I was putting more pressure on it than necessary anyway. The price was right, the warranty will cover it (the part is only $3 anyway). I'll probably get something more substantial down the road. Even Lee makes a single stage press that is more robust than mine, but for the money, I'm very happy with my setup.
 
+1 to what Ifishsum said about the Lee Load-All for shotgun shells. I've used one for years. It is all a beginner will ever need.

I've reloaded thousands of target loads with my Load-All. It's a foolproof machine. Buy one.
 
Just going to toss in 2 cents here even though I am also very new to reloading. I got an RCBS Rock Chucker kit. Going to do both rifle and handgun ammo. (Have a Mech 600 progressive for shotgun)

Was working on decapping and sizing some .40 and I completely destroyed the decapping pin (can't get it out of the holder) AND bent the decapping screw. How I did all that is a long long story...

Anyhoo - changed over to do some .9 while I tried to locate a new part for the .40 and I couldn't find one (not available on the RCBS site). So I sent them an e mail explaining what happened, what I broke and requesting price and order information.

Within 5 minutes I had a reply - "No problem - No charge - Part is in the mail. Have a great day."

Now THAT is customer service!!!
 
The Rock Chucker

Scooter & SASS-- +1 on yr posts. IMNSHO, the RCBS Rock Chucker is the Gold Standard by which all other presses are judged. It is an awesome pc. of machinery--built like a brick pizzeria.

And RCBS has had XLNT customer service for years. They're not the only ones.

Actually, I think that all companies that deal in reloading supplies/equipment have had to upgrade their customer service in self-defense, just because Dillon advertises its XLNT customer service so heavily.
 
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