FWIW; went to the "range" yesterday and found myself spending almost as much time picking up brass as I did shooting (found a lot of 380, a lot of 9mm, and a few 45 ACP. Lost some 32 ACP [little buggers snuck away when I wasn't lookinng]. Picked up maybe 25 assorted others.Left half of the 9mm and all the 223/5.56 and 40 S&W). Yep, I'm a reloader...