Rem 11-87 I wasn't that impressed

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MikeA57

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OK, I haven't shot one. Back when I was younger I shot an 1100 some and I dreamed of owning one. I looked at an 11-87 yesterday though, and I have to say that I just wasn't impressed.

While there, I also had looked at a Benelli Vinci, which was a very nice shotgun but the way it came apart kind of made me wonder about how tight it would still be 20 years from now. I mean, the threads on the stock that screw into the barrel are made of plastic. And I know that the Remington to Benelli comparison isn't apples to apples, but I've been wanting a Benelli for several years now. Unfortunately, my wallet is a lot more able to handle an 11-87 at least at this time. The 11-87 was a LOT heavier than the Vinci. And the fit and finish of the gun just looked BAD. And when I grabbed it, I noticed there was rust on the back end of the receiver! And they had just got it in this week!

I don't know, I'm going to go look around some more. I understand that a lot of people swear by their 11-87 and I was hoping the 11-87 would have made a good gun for me but with what I saw last night, I just don't know about it. What other shotguns (12 ga. 26-28" barrel) should I look at? I'll be using it primarily for dove and pheasant, but may sometimes use it for deer too.

Mike
 
TRY the 887 IT's a short stroke pump and feels like a benelli at half the cost.The old winchester 1300 is a good one also. If you must have a semi go with a old remington model 11 or model 1100 you can find both online for around 300 bucks last I checked.
 
You can buy the semiauto Beretta 390 and 3901 for between $550-600 at places like Dicks and Walmart. Berettas are the top choice for competitive clays shooters who use a semiauto.
 
The 887 looks like they used a 2" water pipe for a barrel. No Thanks!!

The 1100 and 11-87 were good guns in their day. Remington has alwoys been slow to bring new ideas to the market. They were the last shotguns to be fitted with interchangeable chokes, by many years. The 1100/11-87 have been outdated for years. I don't know if the Versa-Max will prove to be good or not, but I'm glad to see Remington step into the 21st century and hope they succeed.
 
Remington has aimed the 11-87s at the "hunter" market, and no longer offers them with polished bluing and good wood. The 1100s are now (once again) the top of the line from an appearance and finishing standpoint. They both work as intended.
 
I was shooting 3" slugs out of my 11-87 and it launched the ejector and cocking handle 20' to the right into a snow bank...this was my 5th shot with it, I wasn't impressed either.
 
If you dont need wood or camo you can get a Browning Maxus for just under $1k out the door. I have one and can recommend for Sporting Clays, and upland. Have no desire to hunt ducks. I also have a Maxus Sporting wood w/30" barrels which is my go to SC gun. Yes I could afford a Browning or Beretta O/U or even Krieghoff. My girfiremnd was going to get me one for bday I said no not right now my maxus is good enough.

Maxus ahs shims to adjust the fit and is very soft shooting. My 5ft and 100lb girlfriend has no problems with recoil on hers.

Versamess Remington's clone of the M4 is more expensive but might be worth taking a look at along with the A400.

Dont forget to look at Mossberg 930 at the lower end.
 
might want to be looking at alot of different brands like the weatherby sa-08, stoeger 2000,mossberg and berretta sounds like your wanting a light weight semi auto for dove and pheasant. ive never been to impressed with remingtons either while ive never had any problems from them that cleaning couldnt fix.
 
I've been shooting an old Belgian Browning Sweet 16 that was my Dad's since I was a teen but I've had problems with it the last couple of years ejecting shells correctly. I took it to a good smith but even after that it occasionally mis-ejects so I'm looking for a replacement. It is approaching 60 years old after all!!

I've looked at the Stoegers for my son; we're both needing new guns, he doesn't have one that he can call his own, and I'm wanting one that's comparable to my Browning which I know has a good lineage. I've wondered about the Maxxus but someone somewhere mentioned that the new Brownings aren't the same quality that the old A5's were.

I borrowed an older Ithaca semi-auto a couple of years ago to go on a Pheasant hunt and it was a joy to shoot. I killed almost everything I shot at with it. Another friend had also lent me a Ruger Red Label and I couldn't hit the side of a slow moving school bus with that. I had never shot an O/U before that but had shot S/S in years past.

The Hunt is ON!!!
 
Check out the WINCHESTER SXP Defender, very nice tight, solid gun for about $299.00! It is made in Turkey and backed by WINCHESTER!
Turkey has improved manufacturing over the years and they are currently making some very nice guns, such as STOEGER.

WINCHESTERS warranty is actually a "Lifetime" warranty, they stand behind all of their guns.

Actually put one in your hands, you'll like it!
 
I think the 1187 and Mossberg 930 SPX both offer the best money for the dollar buy pertaining to tactical sg's (both with extended mags standard as opposed to the M4 which is what I would have bought had Benelli offered it with an extended magazine). In fact, my 1187-P is second only to my Saiga 12 as my go-to SHTF tactical:
 

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OP is not looking for a tactical shotgun. Winchester SXP Defender, M4 and Mossberg 930SPX just dont cut it for dove and pheasant . No need for extended magazine. Not a good first choice for deer either. For dove and pheasant you will be doing a lot of walking the lighter the shotgun the better. Under 7lbs is the goal.

Berette A400. Browning Maxus, Benelli Vinci, and Remington Versamax all in 3" should be on his short list. One step won would the Winchester SX3. Pick the one that fits you best. A pump wouldnt be my first choice for pheasant hunting. Too heavy and the recoil make it a poor choice. A quality O/U for pheasants is going to be even more expensive and your choices are either Browning or Beratta and maybe a Winchester 101(current production)
 
Woops--I just came from a tactical forum--My apologies.

However, I will say that I have never used anything other Remington autos for bird/trap and both the 1100 and 1187 have run flawlessly with thousands of rounds downrange.

-Cheers
 
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