Rem. 1858 New Model - How to Disasemble
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Screws and screwdrivers can be obtained at the following link, but you will probably need to identify what company made your revolver. All such replicas are not exactly the same.
www.dixiegunworks.com
www.dixiegunworks.com
Yes, there are special screwdrivers for guns, known as gunsmith's screwdrivers. The sides of the blades are ground parallel to each other and perpendicular to the end of the blade. You must use the blade that exactly fits the screw slot. Regular screwdriver blade sides are tapered so they will fit in different size screw slots, but they don't fit well in any of them and cannot deliver the load necessary to turn a stuck screw without damaging the sides of the slot.
madcratebuilder
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Get a good set of hollow ground tips and a magnetic driver. Both Midway and Brownells sell these at a reasonable price.
This is a nice set for the price. Most screws you encounter with firearms are not that tight. If you do find a tight one, I would recommend using tips from Wheeler Engineering. Made in the USA, forged and heat treated, I have never broken one. Personally, I use the Wheeler tips and a Snap-On ratcheting driver.
This is a nice set for the price. Most screws you encounter with firearms are not that tight. If you do find a tight one, I would recommend using tips from Wheeler Engineering. Made in the USA, forged and heat treated, I have never broken one. Personally, I use the Wheeler tips and a Snap-On ratcheting driver.
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thank you for the infermation on the screwdrivers
i like yor article on tear down of the 1858 remington love that gun
even thou i am new to black powder
it shoots well for me
was shooto=ing at 30 yards did well
50 yards not so good
THANK YOU
PAUL M. VARGO
thank you for the infermation on the screwdrivers
i like yor article on tear down of the 1858 remington love that gun
even thou i am new to black powder
it shoots well for me
was shooto=ing at 30 yards did well
50 yards not so good
THANK YOU
PAUL M. VARGO
messerist
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Does anyone have a Uberti Remington? I don't know if this problem is specific to my revolver or if anyone else has experienced it. I can dis assemble the revolver just fine but when it comes time to re-insert the cylinder the hand seems to keep the cylinder from "easily" sliding back in. I have the revolver on half-cock which is where it should be upon reassembly? I have to use a thin bladed pocket knife to depress the hand far enough to slide the cylinder back in. My brother has a Pietta and he does not have such issues. Is it me or is there a different way to replace the cylinder?
Does anyone have a Uberti Remington? I don't know if this problem is specific to my revolver or if anyone else has experienced it. I can dis assemble the revolver just fine but when it comes time to re-insert the cylinder the hand seems to keep the cylinder from "easily" sliding back in. I have the revolver on half-cock which is where it should be upon reassembly? I have to use a thin bladed pocket knife to depress the hand far enough to slide the cylinder back in. My brother has a Pietta and he does not have such issues. Is it me or is there a different way to replace the cylinder?
This is endemic to the Remington design, not the manufacturer.
Two solutions:
1) as Old Fuff says, rotate the cylinder as you slide it back in place. The cam on the back of the cylinder will push the hand out of the way and then allow it to fall back into place when the cylinder is in position.
2) hold the hammer between fully down and half cock; there is a position where the bolt is retracted into the frame but the hand has not yet moved into a position where it interferes with the cylinder.
Both of those take a little practice to accomplish smoothly.
Two solutions:
1) as Old Fuff says, rotate the cylinder as you slide it back in place. The cam on the back of the cylinder will push the hand out of the way and then allow it to fall back into place when the cylinder is in position.
2) hold the hammer between fully down and half cock; there is a position where the bolt is retracted into the frame but the hand has not yet moved into a position where it interferes with the cylinder.
Both of those take a little practice to accomplish smoothly.
messerist
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Major Thanks
Wow!!! You guys are great! Thanks for the advice. Now its of to practice!
Tried your suggestions and rotating the cylinder to catch the hand worked great...Mucho Dankas
Wow!!! You guys are great! Thanks for the advice. Now its of to practice!
Tried your suggestions and rotating the cylinder to catch the hand worked great...Mucho Dankas
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blainenay
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I followed the steps as described. When I got the gun back together, there was no spring tension on the hand to engage and rotate the cylinder. I took the gun apart again to inspect the hand and spring. They appear to be normal. Any idea why I’m not getting spring tension on the hand?
With the lockwork fully disassembled:
1. Slide the hammer into the frame going from the top toward the bottom until the bottom of the hammer where the hole for the hand screw can be seen where the trigger guard would normally be.
2. With the frame upside down, notice there is a milled slot in the frame to the left of the hammer.
3. Insert the hand (with attached spring) into this slot and push the hand upward (the gun is upside down) until the hole in the hand becomes aligned (more or less) with the hand screw hole in the hammer.
4. install the hand screw.
5. Pull the hammer upward (with the installed hand) until you can see the hammer screw hole in the hammer alligned with the hammer screw hole in the frame.
6. Install the hammer screw. Rotate the hammer backwards and watch for the hand to stick out into the breech face (cylinder is still removed). Push on the tip of the hand with your finger to see if you fee spring tension. If so, continue to assemble the rest of the lockwork.
If you don't feel any tension I suspect the handspring is either broken or bent. Neither condition is unusual, and a shortcoming of the original design.
1. Slide the hammer into the frame going from the top toward the bottom until the bottom of the hammer where the hole for the hand screw can be seen where the trigger guard would normally be.
2. With the frame upside down, notice there is a milled slot in the frame to the left of the hammer.
3. Insert the hand (with attached spring) into this slot and push the hand upward (the gun is upside down) until the hole in the hand becomes aligned (more or less) with the hand screw hole in the hammer.
4. install the hand screw.
5. Pull the hammer upward (with the installed hand) until you can see the hammer screw hole in the hammer alligned with the hammer screw hole in the frame.
6. Install the hammer screw. Rotate the hammer backwards and watch for the hand to stick out into the breech face (cylinder is still removed). Push on the tip of the hand with your finger to see if you fee spring tension. If so, continue to assemble the rest of the lockwork.
If you don't feel any tension I suspect the handspring is either broken or bent. Neither condition is unusual, and a shortcoming of the original design.
blainenay
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You were right, Old Fuff. The hand spring was bent. I adjusted the spring to provide the necessary tension and now the gun works perfectly. Thanks for your troubleshooting help.
SC_Slowhand
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Great Stuff
Great stuff for a thread that is over 3 years old.
Great stuff for a thread that is over 3 years old.
Concerning threads of this kind, I don't think age matters. Both new and old members - especially those that recently purchased a cap & ball revolver will run into trouble, or at least have questions, when they try to disassemble it.
SC_Slowhand
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Still applicable
Of course it is. I've gotten and exchanged a lot of information from this and other forums that have been a big help in resolving problems. The fact that they have stayed active over the years says a lot for them. The BlackPowder Essentials stickie is exactly that.
Of course it is. I've gotten and exchanged a lot of information from this and other forums that have been a big help in resolving problems. The fact that they have stayed active over the years says a lot for them. The BlackPowder Essentials stickie is exactly that.
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GlennC22ndMVI
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1858 Problems....
Hello...
So I have taken it apart and recognize all of the parts. However, the cylinder and the cylinder pin are still in. I can not get the cylinder pin out and the cylinder doesn't turn. The reason for my "work" has been because the cylinder would not turn during cocking....in fact I could not bring the gun to half cock. Any ideas?
GC
Hello...
So I have taken it apart and recognize all of the parts. However, the cylinder and the cylinder pin are still in. I can not get the cylinder pin out and the cylinder doesn't turn. The reason for my "work" has been because the cylinder would not turn during cocking....in fact I could not bring the gun to half cock. Any ideas?
GC
junkman_01
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If it is stuck with fouling, put it in a bucket of hot water to disolve the fouling.
BHP FAN
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the back of the cylinder pin is flared just for this. Put a BRASS drift punch on the ''ear'' on the back of the pin and flail away with a small hammer on the punch...
Capt. Redbeard
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It's not a great fit, but the screwdriver on the tip of the bottle opener in a swiss army knife is the perfect size, though not very wide. If the screw needs an initial broke free, it might strip a little but if you are patient, it's great, and fits well in your pocket obviously, or whatever box you keep your equipment in!
Zombiphobia
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I hate to admit this, but I have a problem with getting revolvers back together.
"Follow disassembly in reverse order" doesn't cut the mustard. I always have trouble getting the trigger properly in line with the hammer and getting the hammer properly set on the main spring. I have found somewhere on the net, a set of reassembly instructions with photos, but can't find it now and needing to get my pistol back together. Can anybody help me out? Thanks
"Follow disassembly in reverse order" doesn't cut the mustard. I always have trouble getting the trigger properly in line with the hammer and getting the hammer properly set on the main spring. I have found somewhere on the net, a set of reassembly instructions with photos, but can't find it now and needing to get my pistol back together. Can anybody help me out? Thanks
Ironhand54
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If you want to keep the screws organized buy some disposable aluminum cupcake pans. Place each small part in a recess with it's screw. Easy way to keep them together .
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