Rem 700 Accuracy?

[Uncle Mike]

They're all good. I have Remingtons that will hands down drive tacks.
I also have Savages that will do the same. I even have a CZ and a Tikka that will shoot MOA.
We build custom rifles and all of us compete with such, we also shoot stock rifles in competition and hunting.
For what it's worth... and not to insult anyone, Remington has slipped with their quality.
Savages tend to be shooters more than not, however I, for one have a problem with paint and plastic on my rifle, although Remington does paint their bottom metal.
So, to say one is hands down better than the other is simpley mute!
If you like the brand you have, and it shoots well enough for you... then THAT rifle is THE best one!

 

[PT1911]

my information comes from personal experience...I will admit that they are a potentially wonderful gun and in the past they have been the gun by which others were measured.. but when new bull barrel 700s are being sold without a floated barrel, must be recrowned, needs the bolt squared, and the barrel turned back a full two turns to close the gap between the chamber and the barrel in order to shoot respectively, OH not to mention the factory trigger was breaking at about 10 pounds before adjustment.... it is obvious remington is slipping.. in my local area ,lets say 50 square miles, I have seen these issues on several NEW 700s. A local smith who loves 700s and remingtons in general (who also hates savages BTW) admits the same... they just arent the quality they once were.. if you are dropping 700-900 dollars on a new remington 700 it should shoot 1MOA easily with NO WORK at all... perhaps you have one that can do that right of the shelf, but I have personally seen several that could not break the 2 MOA mark and all were made very recently.... at the very least it shows that they are letting way to many sub par guns leave their facility....


all that said, I LIKE 700's and hope to customize several and shoot hole in hole accuracy with them.. but remingtons recent slips are frustrating to me... I will stick to older 700s to avoid silly sub par issues..

 

[Niles Coyote]

The 308 varmint I have is a older one with the HS precision stock and its shoots into .6 moa out to 200 yards and just under moa at 450. The reason its opens up at 450 may be partly due to changing from a bench to a field prone position.

If you reload, mine likes H380 and 168 SMK's the best for accuracy.

 

[benzy2]

I love the 700 but it seems of late that Savage on average has taken the accuracy lead. The 700 certainly looks better, thats for sure, but of late Savage seems to be the better bet for accuracy. The Savage design is better fit for inexpensive accuracy though. The floating bolt head is easier to manufacture and get to lock up well. Not a better design in the end but certainly cheaper to do to acceptable tolerances. The barrel mounting on the Savage is another cheaper alternative. It doesn't take near the time or effort to mount a Savage barrel. That potentially leaves a bigger budget for the barrel and action but I can't say they spend any more on these. In a time where mass produced is the name of the game I can see how Savage has more potential budget for things important to accuracy due to their rifle design. When price is no longer important the Remington design seems better designed.

 

[fatelk]

I have several model 700's, in several different calibers. Most of them shoot very respectably, but I do have one in particular that just won't, no matter what I do to it. It's a .270 Win, my first rifle. I bought it used in the late '80s.

The barrel is good, the crown is good, stock bedding is good, trigger, scope mount, etc.. About 1.5moa is the very best it is capable of, and really that is plenty good enough for a hunting rifle.

 

[RevolverMan567]

maybe there only shipping the only good ones to a few states. but ive never had a bad one.

 

[MCMXI]

maybe there only shipping the only good ones to a few states. but ive never had a bad one.

Remington must be shipping the good ones my way then since I'm three for three!! All of my 700s easily shoot under 1" groups at 100 yards. In fact, if they don't shoot under 0.75" groups I'm disappointed. My latest model, an Alaskan Ti in .300WSM (bought about 18 months ago) will shoot 5-shot groups like the one shown below without any fuss. The fit and finish is excellent and I have zero complaints about that rifle ... ok, I had one complaint, the factory magazine wasn't long enough to hold loads with an SMK 190gr HPBT bullet seated 0.020" off the lands, but it was easy to "fix" with an extended magazine from Wyatt.

For Remingtons in general, I'm not a fan of the X-Mark Pro trigger and much prefer a Jewell trigger but that's just personal preference. Many really like the X-Mark Pro trigger. Also, I wish that the bolt handles were welded to the bolt or better yet one-piece, but both of those shortcomings are easily addressed. I've never had a bolt handle come off but I'd prefer the added reliability of a Savage or similar bolt arrangement.

Now for some targets .... here's a 5-shot group with the Remington 700 Alaskan Ti at 100 yards.

Here's a 5-shot group from the Remington 700P in .300 Win Mag before I replaced the barrel with one from Krieger (left target). Here are two 3-shot groups at 200 yards with the Remington 700 VSSF in .308 Win before I replaced the barrel with one from Krieger (right target). I shot the group in the upper right corner first followed by the group in the upper left corner about 20 minutes later.

To the OP, Remington rifles have proven to be very accurate for me and hopefully these targets show that accuracy isn't a problem for the 700 and may give you some idea as to what to expect. However, I would definitely consider buying a Savage but not specifically for the accuracy. Based on the posts here and my personal experience, a Savage is no better and no worse than a Remington in terms of accuracy. I like the other features such as the bolt and the DIY aspect with barrel swaps and headspacing etc.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

What kind of MOA accuracy can I expect in it's stock form?

Depends upon the ammo used.

Tuned handload, at least 0.75 MOA, probably better.

Factory premium ammo, 1.5-2.0 MOA.

Factory standard, anywhere from 1.5 MOA to 3.5 MOA, maybe more.

 

[Pat4x4]

1.5 to 2.0 Moa is really alot bigger than I would expect with factory match ammo.. Matter a fact I would send it back if that is all the better it would do.. I think they gaurantee better

My SPS tactical in 308 is shooting a hair under.5 MOA with FGMM and the 700p has a better stock and should shoot as good or better

 

[THE MACHINIST]

rem 700 30-06 stock bdl

150 yds remington 700 30-06 150 yds. navajo nation narbona pass az. one shot rifle was fitted with a simmons scope 3-9x50 hit where i was aiming.

 

[rogn]

You really pays your money and makes yer choice, Ive never gotten a bad 700, over about a dozen i guess. Sons gun the latest with he weird triangular barrel, shoots throw together handloads @ 0.3" My 300WSM SPS alphabet soup is good for 3/4" @ 200 with Nos partition. Ive got a Savage ML?? thatll group @ 1/2" at 200 yd on calm days as long as the scope doesnt get rattled(literaly)-250gr XTP @ 2400fps-recoil is noticeable. And Iv got a savage 12 in 300WSM that was an assembly of rejected parts-bent recoil lug , big ding on front of receiver, needed recrown badly, scope mount holes v slightly off(yeah I know this cant happen with the jigs they use). But I dont care who makes it Ill take it apart and check all those things I can check here at home. Sometimes the accurate factory rifle is just a statistical accident- you got all the good stuff lined uip that day. Maybe the recesion will reinstill pride of workmanship. In my most recent experiences we ought to look harder at the scope makin' folks as i thing theyre the ones mking sorta second rate stuff.

 

[Redneck with a 40]

I'll put my Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308 up against any other factory rifle out there, for accuracy, within the same class of rifles.

 

[Uncle Mike]

Remington makes NO accuracy guarantees on any of their rifles unless you get the mil spec units or custom shop units. :banghead:

And ooooowww, be careful with that shoot em' off challange Redneck, some of these boys have some tack drivers... out of the box, sporter barrel, you name it. lol hehehe

 

[P.B.Walsh]

Their great!!!!

 

[ScotZ]

My 30-06 Rem 700 BDL Custom is one of my favorite guns. It seems that I can hand that gun to anybody and they shoot well with it. I hit what I aim at,and that is all I ask from any rifle. My father gave me the gun on my 16th birthday in 1975. God knows how long he had it before that. So yes I am bias, call me a Rem lover if you must. In 34 years the gun has never let me down.