rem 700 long range 30 06 vs 300 win mag

[horsemen61]

I am looking at getting a rem 700 long range now the question is what caliber would you get it in im thinking 30 06 or 300 win Mag which caliber would you get ?

 

[Jim Watson]

How far is "long range" where you shoot?

 

[jmr40]

Punching paper, or trying to take game? I'd look hard at some of the 6.5mm offerings. Much less recoil and they do very well on paper and game.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I would also look at the 6.5mm offerings over the .30 ones. If the 6.5mm isn't enough, you should look at the .338 class chamberings

 

[Clint M]

Long range 300 win mag every time as long as you can withstand recoil which I have no problem with when combined with 9 pound and plus gun 10 pounds should be a good starting point for long range by the time you mount scope etc along with medium weight barrel. A sendero type setup would be excellent. I really like 6.5mm it's a perfect medium game cartridge and a coyote jelly doughnut maker with 95gr v-max but that's in the 260 rem, when you get into the 6.5x284 and such your barrel life really suffers (1000 rounds in competition). You will read, and hear lots of negatives about 300 win mag mainly due to recoil in lite weight hunting rifles, but when used in correct weight gun with a good recoil pad I don't have any problems with it.

 

[elkhunterCO]

I would get 300 WM.

If I had a nickel for everytime someone said 6.5 when discussing the 30 calibers.
Well, I'd have a buck by the time this thread is over.

 

[Art Eatman]

The Eatman family experience in hunting Bambi with the .30-'06 is that it's plenty good to 500 yards.

 

[elkhunterCO]

I hunted elk a lot of years with an 06.

I've been using a 300 for awhile now and couldn't say that it kills the elk any better.
It gives a little more range (probably enough to be overconfident), although I haven't yet taken an elk over 400 yards. I just like 300 WM. I like 06 too.

 

[climbnjump]

I am looking at getting a rem 700 long range now the question is what caliber would you get it in im thinking 30 06 or 300 win Mag which caliber would you get ?

Perhaps the OP will verify, but I think he's looking at a specific rifle - the Model 700™ Long Range.

If that's the case, then the suggestions to look at 6.5mm calibers doesn't apply as it only comes in 25-06, 7mm RM, 300 WM, 300 RUM and 30-06.

FWIW, I have one of these rifles in 7mm RM. I just shot my first F-Class 600 yard comp with it earlier this evening. For a $600 rifle that's had nothing at all done to it, it did ok - 188-5x.

 

[Pablito1]

I have both a 30/06 and a 300 both being Remington. In the 06 I hunt with 165 grain Partitions and the 300 shoots the 180 grainers. Both of them have been very effective elk rifles for me and I like both. The 06 does however kick substantianlly less and that does make a difference in long range shooting.

Regards, Pablo

 

[Sheepdog1968]

A good friend of mine who likes long distance shooting found his 308 Rem 700 pooped out at around 800 yards so he got a 300 Win Mag. A 30-06 has a bit more zip tha. A 308 but not by much. If over 800 yards go 300 win mag. If under or at 800 yards or so go 30-06.

Savage had a range day where I got to shoot one of their 300 win mags. It had significant less recoil than my 308 Rem 700. If you make sure you have a heavy rifle the. The recoil won't be bad at all with a 300 win mag.

 

[horsemen61]

I have a 6.5x55 swede already and Ive shot a 6.5x284 Norma before so I'm thinking a good 30 cal would be nice

 

[Robert]

Ok, but for what use? A strictly off the bench range gun, or for hunting, or a combination of both?

 

[horsemen61]

Well with its 26 heavier than standard hunting barrel contour it will most likely be a target gun but I might hunt with it some as far as range I'm thinking 1000 yards

 

[Sunray]

The Model 700 Long Range is just another marketing department rifle. It's no different than any other heavy barreled M700.
That aside, a 9 pound .300 Mag will not be fun to shoot. A 9 pound .30-06 would be just another bolt action.
1,000 is too far for hunting with a .30-06. Energy isn't there with any bullet weight. A .300 Mag target rifle(Know a guy who shoots one built on a Win 70A. Rifle weighs 17.5 pounds.) is a normal thing at 1,000, using 190 grain match bullets. Still too far for hunting.

 

[M-Cameron]

Well with its 26 heavier than standard hunting barrel contour it will most likely be a target gun but I might hunt with it some as far as range I'm thinking 1000 yards

1000 yds shots are pretty loft....i really dont think you are going to have much luck making accurate shots with an off the shelf Rem 700.

honestly, unless you are handloading and have regular access to a 1000yd range, i really think that may be a tad unrealistic.....especially if you want to use the same gun for target shooting and for hunting.

 

[69Precision]

Well with its 26 heavier than standard hunting barrel contour it will most likely be a target gun but I might hunt with it some as far as range I'm thinking 1000 yards

Please don't shoot at animals at 1000 yards. Please. Technology has come a good ways in the past decade to extend ranges a bit for the average guy, but there are very few if any people that have any business shooting animals at those kind of distances.

 

[horsemen61]

To anyone who was led to belive I would hunt at 1000 yards you are mistaken I was saying I might hunt with it but 300 yards would be the max hunting range for me and that would be if I went out west and truly could not close the distance anymore than that so no fellas I ain't trying to hunt at 1000 yards because frankly I ain't that good and I don't see it as the ethical thing to do when hunting

 

[horsemen61]

Also I'm saying a 1000 yards is the max distance I'll ever use it for right now I have acess to a some land that I can shoot up to 900 yards so I'm not saying i will always go that far out

 

[WVRJ]

My choice would be the 300WM,but take note that I reload.I can tune my 300 down to 06 velocities with 150 grain bullets for deer if the recoil bothers me.I normally shoot the same load in it all the time and that's 180 grain Accu-Bonds.I've killed several elk between 400 and 500 yards and it's done very good.If I were to go with a heavy barrel,I would probably shoot heavier bullets if the twist was right,but my 7 3/4 pound M700FS is a bit hard on the shoulder with anything over 180.I've shot both rounds,and would have to say the magnum is more favorable to me,but that's just how I see it.A lot of 06 guys will say the extra horsepower of the 300's not worth the cost of feeding and the recoil,but I think it has an edge in versatility.

 

[Clint M]

I'm both glad and proud of you for stating the hunting range limit of 300 yards. I won't say another word about long range hunting as it may bomb your post.

You can research recoil energy from different gun weights, I can't understand why so many are criticizing 300 win mag yet 30-06 is no problem ( that's just me as everyone is different as to what is tolerable from women to guns). If you can find someone who will let you shoot a 300 win mag in a sendero or varmint weight rig you will know if the recoil is to much.

 

[gamestalker]

I have a pretty good deal of experience reloading for both. That said, I would personally choose the 300 WM over the 06 for LR work. But I like both, but each has it's practical limit, IMO.

Either one would make for a good 300 yd. rifle, little challenge there, IMO.

GS

 

[tuj]

Everybody has this thing about 'long range' it seems like. I don't get the obsession. Some of the best shooters do it with .308 which has a very mortar-like trajectory at that distance (1000 yards).

So let's back up a second, you want a target gun and a hunting gun. A lot of times the two are mutually exclusive. For example, a good target gun stock is going to be heavy. The barrel contour will be heavy. The glass will be high-powered. The hunting rifle wants almost all the opposite things.

Then the caliber: 30-06 and .300winmag will easily take most anything in the lower 48 states and more. The advantage to 300WM is that is shoots flatter, farther. It also generally bucks the wind better. The disadvantage to the 300WM is that it is loud, has significant recoil if full charges are used, and has a shorter barrel lifetime.

My advice would be to consider 2 rifles instead. As for the hunting rifle, Savage makes some good choices, but if you are going to be staying under 300 yards, then consider .308 as an alternative cartridge. Regarding the target rifle, I think you need to tell us what you plan to do: targets for fun or for competition?

 

[Sheepdog1968]

I once also tried to do a combo hunting and long range gun. Ultimately it wasn't optimized for either. Ended up getting a separate hunting rifle. I can live with the decision for long range shooting but would likely go in a different direction. I recommend focusing on what's best for long range shooting. Should you want to go hunting, get one of those newer generation rifles that are in the lower price range and slap a simple Redfield 2-7 or 3-9 on it.

 

[eastbank]

i saw a 700 rem with a medium weight 26" barrel in .280 ackly imp. shooting the 162 match bullet right at 3000 fps with a 12x leupold scope with target turrets hit orange regular clay birds at 500 yards. i was impressed. i have had very good results with the 3006 shooting the 165gr nosler BT with a heavy load of RL 22 to 500yds and with the range finders of today and a solid rest hitting a deer in the vitals is not that hard if you pratice.fps-1926 engy-1359 at 500 yards. the main problem is seeing 500yrds in the woods,he,he. eastbank.