rem 700 sps-v .243 issues

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I just bought a Remington 700 SPS-V and can't get it to shoot in the same spot twice to save my life. It's got a 1 in 9 1/8 twist barrel, and I've been shooting mainly 100 gr bullets. I tried 58 gr mollys first, and didn't have any luck, so I did some reading and found that the twist rate was better suited for heavier bullets so that's when I went to the 100's. My groups are like 2 and 3 inches at 100 yards.... sometimes 4 or 5. It actually seems like the hotter the barrel gets the better it shoots. First group with cool barrel was almost at 5 inches. last group when the barrel would almost burn you the group was near 2 inches. I'm not sure what I'm missing.
 
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are you SURE your scope rings are securely attached?
maybe the reticle has come loose in the scope? what brand is it?
 
I've had a Remington rifle that was a true lemmon. Brand new, it would shoot 6-8 inches at best. It was a M700 VTR .223. I removed the pressure points in the end of the stock. Nothing. I switched scopes. Nothing. Tried 5 different loads. Nothing. Put a pillar bedded stock on it. Instant 1 inch groups! Injection molded stocks, those without pillars such as those used on many Remington rifles, cannot be trusted. Remington does not provide a test target. They need to start. I'd look at the stock.
 
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1) Always mount the base and rings with a torque wrench (15 inch pounds). Clean treads on all parts, dry then mount with LocTite. Let dry for 24 hours.

2) Some have reported that moly will mess up a barrel for non-moly bullets until the moly is cleaned out.

3) I believe it is Krieger barrels' website that indicates that barrels that start with loose groups, and then tighten with subsequent groups, need to have the initial about 6 to 10 inches of barrel broken-in. I had that with my Weatherby Mark V. After I broken the barrel in and polished the about first 10" of barrel, it now groups great, 1st group to last group.

Best of luck and report what you find.

Geno
 
1.)Clean the entire rifle (barrel especially).
2.)Check your base and rings screws and assure they are all tightened properly.
3.)Tighten the action screws down very well.
4.)Buy 3 different grains of bullets and shoot them all.
5.)Make sure your gun has a stable platform (sandbag/gun vise), shoulder the rifle exactly the same, and assure a clean trigger pull every time.
 
ditch the crappy factory stock, put the barreled action into a Bell and Carlson or some such and watch your groups tighten up. gotta get that barrel off the stock. shooting match loads will help too of course. hunting loads will never achieve the accuracy potential of the rifle. with a free floated barrel and match loads, you'll likely be getting close to 1 MOA or better.

Bobby
 
next time buy a Weatherby, Savage, or Thompson Center. Tikka makes a good rifle. People got to start letting Remington know they have to improve their quality and stop relying on name brand recognition.
 
dcktp37:

I had a picture here abouts. Don't know where it is now. If you want, I can e-mail you a pic. Just PM me your e-mail.

Geno
 
sorry to hear that your Remington behaving in such manner, I was at the range today shooting my sps varmint and at 300 yards where I would get 1.7" 4 shots then 5 shot would ruin everything, to make story short you could glass bed your action and free-float your barrel, I have done it on my SPS, also after I replaced it with B&C Medalist stock I didn't find much difference in the group patterns, I'm not professional when it comes to bedding rifles but I tried it and it worked great
 
the factory stock is nigh impossible to free float and bed. take it's basically hollow and doesn't have enough back bone to support a cantilever barrel. sometimes you can fine 700P take off stocks from HS Precision for around $200 also. check out Snipercentral.com for that. i like HS as a brand, they make good stuff, i'm just not really fond of that particular stock. good value if you can find one though.

the rifles really do have great potential. here's a 7 round group i shot at 300 yards with Hornaday's 155 grain A-Max match loads.

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To get moly out of a bore use JB Bore Cleaner... Contrary to popular urban myth, JB will NOT hurt your barrel.

Also, if you handload you will always have better results. I had a factory stock M700 SPS with a plastic stock shooting consistent 1/2" groups with handloads. My rifle loved 80-grain Berger match grade bullets.

1/2" groups from a factory rifle is something to behold.
 
Id also go with glass bedding your "stock" stock, if you like the way it feals and handles. Its the cheapest fix and easy to do at home with minimal tools and supplies. As for results while i dont have a 700 in .243, i DO have one recently rebarreld by er.shaw in 6x47 shooting 70gr balistic tips it wouldnt group inside 2". After glass bedding the action and fully floating the barrel im getting groups under 1/2".
My savage 10 in .243, also benifited from glass bedding the action, even tho it has steel pillars.
 
OK Here is a fact:

My M700 varmint .243 had a factory plastic stock and shot .560" groups with high quality hand loads - I have the targets to prove it.

I put an HS Precision stock with aluminum bedding block and shot the same high quality hand loads, and it shot .510" groups...

If you ask me, its not worth the price for .050" better groups, but I will admit the HS Stock looked and felt much nicer than the factory plastic stock.

Clean the barrel really good, get the best ammo you can get (not necessarily the most expensive), make sure all the screws are tight (don’t over do the stock screws on a plastic stock), don't drink any coffee, take a deep breath and relax, and squeeze...

PS. you can NOT glass or epoxy bed a Remington factory plastic stock - nothing will stick to it well enough without serious effort - just aint worth the effort.
 
Many people bedded SPS stock it is possible I've done it myself Devcon sticks to it and holds, just have to create physical locks in the synthetic stock... Told you I'm no professional when it comes to bedding here it is after 300 rounds shot through it...
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Alright, I picked up some Hornady Light magnum 95 gr SSTs toady and here's how they shot. The wider group was the first five shots. After that I shot five more while the barrel was still good and warm and that is the tighter group. The shot wayy to the left in the first group was my first shot. These are all shot sand-bagged at 100 yards.
 

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Bad, both are bad... I can suggest changing your scope... Are you shooting that crappy thing Remington puts on called varmint scope, put something that shoots good ? If that fails call them and request them to fix your SPS because this is unacceptable for varmint rifle.

here is what I get out of my SPS

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