Rem 700pss

[nexus6]

Hi. Im new here by the way.

I have a question. Do you guys think its worth almost $1000 to get the Accuracy International A4 Stock for my REM 700PSS?

 

[WalkerTexasRanger]

Welcome. No. We shoot straight here.......

 

[Black Snowman]

Ya, I'm gonna vote no on this one as well. For less money I'd rather have a custom stock made to fit me.

 

[nexus6]

my bad its the Accuracy International AICS 1.5 Long for $704, does anyone have this setup or has had experience shooting with this setup?

 

[XxAR10xX]

It's seems like a lot of guys over on the snipers hide forums like this stock as much as - if not more than - the McMillan A4 (which is supposedly the creme de la creme) If and when I get a PSS I'll eventually drop it in a AICS 1.5 chassis. I believe bedding is optional with this stock, and the reliable detachable 10rd mag is a big plus.

 

[nexus6]

so if i do decide to purchase this, do i just send my rifle off to A.I. for it to be installed? Or do they just send the chassis for me to take to the gunsmith?

 

[Sactown]

I think I remember reading that from AI that you can drop in your receiver and barrel and start tightening up all those screws. If i remember correctly you drop the action into some kind of aluminum block or something and then the actual plastic stock pieces screw in.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Before you drop $700 or so bucks, try it with the factory (HSP) stock. If it shoots good, why change?

 

[BusMaster007]

Welcome.

My opinion is NO on the stock change, especially for the $.

I dropped my 700 Police into a Hogue pillar bedded stock to get a good grip and lighter weight without the bulk.
It's really nice in that stock.
The full bedding block version would be nice, too, but, the HS Precision stock the gun came with has one already.
I was going for something different and definetly got it.

If you've got the inclination and/or the money, though, go for what you want and be happy!

 

[Roadrunner]

Stick with the "stock" stock and put the money into your optics. The only modification I did to my stock was dumping the thin recoil pad and replaced it with a Pachmayr recoil pad.

 

[nexus6]

I already have a great scope, i have a Leupold Vari-X III 4.5-14x50mm Long Range M1.

 

[762x51]

Not a fan of the AICS. I would much rather have a McMillian A2 or the new A5.

 

[Steve Smith]

Keep your old stock and use the money for ammo or reloading materials.

 

[ocabj]

If you don't already have a Badger base and rings for your scope, get those before you buy a stock.

As far as a stock, what are you going to do with it? If this is just a benchgun then the AICS will be fine if you have money to burn. If you want a field weapon, get a McMillan. From what I understand, the AICS is heavier and bulkier than other stocks. I think the HS Precision stock that the 700P/PSS comes with is a good stock. If you haven't abused it yet, you should sell it. You should be able to get a couple hundred for it.

 

[bogie]

Oh, fahchrissake!

It's a "tactical" stock, so it's worth all that $$$?

Be serious. Get a good McMillan stock, and a good scope, and you're set.

But keep in mind that if you wanna throw $700 at that rifle to make it shoot better, you'll be best off keeping the factory stock, and having a benchrest-quality gunsmith (likely NOT the fellow down at your local gun shop - sorry...) true up the action and install a match-grade barrel with a tight chamber.

Get some steel epoxy and the release agent of your choice, and bed it into your factory stock, and you're set.

 

[uglygun]

Don't think that the HS Precision PSS stock can't be improved...


The thing can likely benefit a bit from a bedding job, maybe lose another 1/4 MOA or tighten up the first round cold bore shot to be a little closer to the rest of the normal group. The "V" channel in the aluminum block is good for centering a round bottom action in a fairly consistent manner but it can benefit from a little improvement, maybe relieve a little stress point here or there.

I can't recall if they call it "skim bedding" or exactly what the process is but I do see claims of improved accuracy simply by having the factory supplied stock bedded with something like MarineTex or similar powdered metal bedding compound.


I'd say keep the stock until the entire rifle is ready for a rebuild, then while the rifle is in having it's action trued and a new barrel installed then you can throw a new stock on it. After the rebuild you're gonna have to work up a new load anyhow.

In the short time, 700 dollars could go towards improving the bases/rings or upgrading the scope and support gear. For example if you have a mil-dot scope but have yet to get a Mil-Dot Master for the low entry fee of 20-30 dollars, by all means do that first.

 

[nexus6]

that was great tip uglygun thanks!

 

[Mute]

I've tried all the McMillan and HS stocks and I've tried the Sako TRG as well. My top choice is still the AICS. However, stock fit is really subjective. So to answer your question...yes and no.

Yes, I would get the stock.

No, I would not pay $1000 since you can find it for half that price.

And no, it isn't just a benchrest stock. It's tough enough for field use and may in fact be even tougher than the stocks from McMillan.

 

[bogie]

Yeah, but remember - you can pretty it up in all sorts of ways, but it'll still be an action with factory tolerances (the "pss" doesn't "go through" the custom shop), and a factory barrel. Talk to an accuracy smith like Billy Stevens.

 

[hillbilly]

I want to ditto Bogie on the action truing.

I have a Remington 700 Varmint Synthetic.

It is essentially the 700 PSS in a slightly different stock.....with narrow forearm instead of the big, flattened beavertail forearm.

Instead of a new stock, I put my money into optics (Leupold 6.5-20 with Gen 2 Mil Dot reticle) and mounts, rings, and action truing.

My Remington 700 PSS with the regular, usual "sporter stock" on it will, if I do my part, shoot five shot groups at 100 yards that I can cover with a dime.

I have gone through two "sniper" courses at Badlands Tactical with that rifle.

http://www.badlandstactical.net

Get that action trued. It's worth every single penny.

hillbilly

 

[Mute]

Ditto the above. Send gun to George Gardner. Have action trued and blueprinted.

 

[Gewehr98]

Oh my goodness!

Just take the darned thing out first, in it's original stock, after torquing the action screws to 65 inch-pounds. Who knows, it may shoot sub-MOA just like that! (Like mine did, and several others I know of first-hand...)

 

[Steve Smith]

I agree with Gewehr98

 

[bogie]

Sub-MOA?

So?

Give it to an accuracy smith, who is used to working at benchrest-quality tolerances. Realize that quarter-MOA is generally considered "not good enough" in the benchrest world.

Tell ya what... You bring your "sub-MOA" rifle, and I'll bring a rifle that's been worked to benchrest tolerances (not even a custom action - I'll bring my Savage that was worked over by Paul Dorsey (truing) and Billy Stevens (barrel). Bring money.

 

[STONER]

Mil Dot Master

Uglygun,

Hate to show my ignorance, but what is a "Mil Dot Master". Thanks in advance for the edification.