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From James Bovard.

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December 15, 2003 issue
Copyright © 2003 The American Conservative

“Free-Speech Zoneâ€

The administration quarantines dissent.


By James Bovard

On Dec. 6, 2001, Attorney General John Ashcroft informed the Senate Judiciary Committee, “To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty … your tactics only aid terrorists, for they erode our national unity and … give ammunition to America’s enemies.†Some commentators feared that Ashcroft’s statement, which was vetted beforehand by top lawyers at the Justice Department, signaled that this White House would take a far more hostile view towards opponents than did recent presidents. And indeed, some Bush administration policies indicate that Ashcroft’s comment was not a mere throwaway line.

When Bush travels around the United States, the Secret Service visits the location ahead of time and orders local police to set up “free speech zones†or “protest zones†where people opposed to Bush policies (and sometimes sign-carrying supporters) are quarantined. These zones routinely succeed in keeping protesters out of presidential sight and outside the view of media covering the event.

When Bush came to the Pittsburgh area on Labor Day 2002, 65-year-old retired steel worker Bill Neel was there to greet him with a sign proclaiming, “The Bush family must surely love the poor, they made so many of us.†The local police, at the Secret Service’s behest, set up a “designated free-speech zone†on a baseball field surrounded by a chain-link fence a third of a mile from the location of Bush’s speech. The police cleared the path of the motorcade of all critical signs, though folks with pro-Bush signs were permitted to line the president’s path. Neel refused to go to the designated area and was arrested for disorderly conduct; the police also confiscated his sign. Neel later commented, “As far as I’m concerned, the whole country is a free speech zone. If the Bush administration has its way, anyone who criticizes them will be out of sight and out of mind.â€

At Neel’s trial, police detective John Ianachione testified that the Secret Service told local police to confine “people that were there making a statement pretty much against the president and his views†in a so-called free speech area. Paul Wolf, one of the top officials in the Allegheny County Police Department, told Salon that the Secret Service “come in and do a site survey, and say, ‘Here’s a place where the people can be, and we’d like to have any protesters put in a place that is able to be secured.’†Pennsylvania district judge Shirley Rowe Trkula threw out the disorderly conduct charge against Neel, declaring, “I believe this is America. Whatever happened to ‘I don’t agree with you, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it’?â€

Similar suppressions have occurred during Bush visits to Florida. A recent St. Petersburg Times editorial noted, “At a Bush rally at Legends Field in 2001, three demonstrators—two of whom were grandmothers—were arrested for holding up small handwritten protest signs outside the designated zone. And last year, seven protesters were arrested when Bush came to a rally at the USF Sun Dome. They had refused to be cordoned off into a protest zone hundreds of yards from the entrance to the Dome.†One of the arrested protesters was a 62-year-old man holding up a sign, “War is good business. Invest your sons.†The seven were charged with trespassing, “obstructing without violence and disorderly conduct.â€

Police have repressed protesters during several Bush visits to the St. Louis area as well. When Bush visited on Jan. 22, 2003, 150 people carrying signs were shunted far away from the main action and effectively quarantined. Denise Lieberman of the ACLU of Eastern Missouri commented, “No one could see them from the street. In addition, the media were not allowed to talk to them. The police would not allow any media inside the protest area and wouldn’t allow any of the protesters out of the protest zone to talk to the media.†When Bush stopped by a Boeing plant to talk to workers, Christine Mains and her five-year-old daughter disobeyed orders to move to a small protest area far from the action. Police arrested Mains and took her and her crying daughter away in separate squad cars.

The Justice Department is now prosecuting Brett Bursey, who was arrested for holding a “No War for Oil†sign at a Bush visit to Columbia, S.C. Local police, acting under Secret Service orders, established a “free speech zone†half a mile from where Bush would speak. Bursey was standing amid hundreds of people carrying signs praising the president. Police told Bursey to remove himself to the “free speech zone.â€

Bursey refused and was arrested. Bursey said that he asked the policeman if “it was the content of my sign, and he said, ‘Yes, sir, it’s the content of your sign that’s the problem.’†Bursey stated that he had already moved 200 yards from where Bush was supposed to speak. Bursey later complained, “The problem was, the restricted area kept moving. It was wherever I happened to be standing.â€

Bursey was charged with trespassing. Five months later, the charge was dropped because South Carolina law prohibits arresting people for trespassing on public property. But the Justice Department—in the person of U.S. Attorney Strom Thurmond Jr.—quickly jumped in, charging Bursey with violating a rarely enforced federal law regarding “entering a restricted area around the President of the United States.†If convicted, Bursey faces a six-month trip up the river and a $5000 fine. Federal magistrate Bristow Marchant denied Bursey’s request for a jury trial because his violation is categorized as a “petty offense.†Some observers believe that the feds are seeking to set a precedent in a conservative state such as South Carolina that could then be used against protesters nationwide.

Bursey’s trial took place on Nov. 12 and 13. His lawyers sought the Secret Service documents they believed would lay out the official policies on restricting critical speech at presidential visits. The Bush administration sought to block all access to the documents, but Marchant ruled that the lawyers could have limited access. Bursey sought to subpoena John Ashcroft and Karl Rove to testify. Bursey lawyer Lewis Pitts declared, “We intend to find out from Mr. Ashcroft why and how the decision to prosecute Mr. Bursey was reached.†The magistrate refused, however, to enforce the subpoenas. Secret Service agent Holly Abel testified at the trial that Bursey was told to move to the “free speech zone†but refused to co-operate. Magistrate Marchant is expected to issue his decision in December.

The feds have offered some bizarre rationales for hog-tying protesters. Secret Service agent Brian Marr explained to National Public Radio, “These individuals may be so involved with trying to shout their support or non-support that inadvertently they may walk out into the motorcade route and be injured. And that is really the reason why we set these places up, so we can make sure that they have the right of free speech, but, two, we want to be sure that they are able to go home at the end of the evening and not be injured in any way.†Except for having their constitutional rights shredded.

Marr’s comments are a mockery of this country’s rich heritage of vigorous protests. Somehow, all of a sudden, after George W. Bush became president people became so stupid that federal agents had to cage them to prevent them from walking out in front of speeding vehicles.

The ACLU, along with several other organizations, is suing the Secret Service for what it charges is a pattern-and-practice of suppressing protesters at Bush events in Arizona, California, Connecticut, Michigan, New Jersey, New Mexico, Texas, and elsewhere. The ACLU’s Witold Walczak said of the protesters, “The individuals we are talking about didn’t pose a security threat; they posed a political threat.â€

The Secret Service is duty-bound to protect the president. But it is ludicrous to presume that would-be terrorists are lunkheaded enough to carry anti-Bush signs when carrying pro-Bush signs would give them much closer access. And even a policy of removing all people carrying signs—as has happened in some demonstrations—is pointless, since potential attackers would simply avoid carrying signs. Presuming that terrorists are as unimaginative and predictable as the average federal bureaucrat is not a recipe for presidential longevity.

The Bush administration’s anti-protester bias proved embarrassing for two American allies with long traditions of raucous free speech, resulting in some of the most repressive restrictions in memory in free countries. When Bush visited Australia in October, Sydney Morning Herald columnist Mark Riley observed, “The basic right of freedom of speech will adopt a new interpretation during the Canberra visits this week by the US President, George Bush, and his Chinese counterpart, Hu Jintao. Protesters will be free to speak as much as they like just as long as they can’t be heard.†Demonstrators were shunted to an area away from the Federal Parliament building and prohibited from using any public address system in the area.

For Bush’s recent visit to London, the White House demanded that British police ban all protest marches, close down the center of the city, and impose a “virtual three day shutdown of central London in a bid to foil disruption of the visit by anti-war protesters,†according to Britain’s Evening Standard. But instead of a “free speech zoneâ€â€”as such areas are labeled in the U.S.—the Bush administration demanded an “exclusion zone†to protect Bush from protesters’ messages.

Such unprecedented restrictions did not inhibit Bush from portraying himself as a champion of freedom during his visit. In a speech at Whitehall on Nov. 19, Bush hyped the “forward strategy of freedom†and declared, “We seek the advance of freedom and the peace that freedom brings.†Regarding the protesters, Bush sought to turn the issue into a joke: “I’ve been here only a short time, but I’ve noticed that the tradition of free speech—exercised with enthusiasm—is alive and well here in London. We have that at home, too. They now have that right in Baghdad, as well.â€

Attempts to suppress protesters become more disturbing in light of the Homeland Security Department’s recommendation that local police departments view critics of the war on terrorism as potential terrorists. In a May 2003 terrorist advisory, the Homeland Security Department warned local law enforcement agencies to keep an eye on anyone who “expressed dislike of attitudes and decisions of the U.S. government.†If police vigorously followed this advice, millions of Americans could be added to the official lists of “suspected terrorists.â€

Protesters have claimed that police have assaulted them during demonstrations in New York, Washington, and elsewhere. Film footage of a February New York antiwar rally showed what looked like a policeman on horseback charging into peaceful aged Leftists. The neoconservative New York Sun suggested in February 2003 that the New York Police Department “send two witnesses along for each participant [in an antiwar demonstration], with an eye toward preserving at least the possibility of an eventual treason prosecution†since all the demonstrators were guilty of “giving, at the very least, comfort to Saddam Hussein.â€

One of the most violent government responses to an antiwar protest occurred when local police and the federally funded California Anti-Terrorism Task Force fired rubber bullets and tear gas at peaceful protesters and innocent bystanders at the port of Oakland, injuring a number of people. When the police attack sparked a geyser of media criticism, Mike van Winkle, the spokesman for the California Anti-Terrorism Information Center told the Oakland Tribune, “You can make an easy kind of a link that, if you have a protest group protesting a war where the cause that’s being fought against is international terrorism, you might have terrorism at that protest. You can almost argue that a protest against that is a terrorist act.†Van Winkle justified classifying protesters like terrorists: “I’ve heard terrorism described as anything that is violent or has an economic impact, and shutting down a port certainly would have some economic impact. Terrorism isn’t just bombs going off and killing people.â€

Such aggressive tactics become more ominous in the light of the Bush administration’s advocacy, in its Patriot II draft legislation, of nullifying all judicial consent decrees restricting state and local police from spying on those groups who may oppose government policies.

On May 30, 2002, Ashcroft effectively abolished restrictions on FBI surveillance of Americans’ everyday lives first imposed in 1976. One FBI internal newsletter encouraged FBI agents to conduct more interviews with antiwar activists “for plenty of reasons, chief of which it will enhance the paranoia endemic in such circles and will further service to get the point across that there is an FBI agent behind every mailbox.†The FBI took a shotgun approach towards protesters partly because of the FBI’s “belief that dissident speech and association should be prevented because they were incipient steps towards the possible ultimate commission of act which might be criminal,†according to a Senate report.

On Nov. 23 news broke that the FBI is now actively conducting surveillance of antiwar demonstrators—supposedly to “blunt potential violence by extremist elements,†according to a Reuters interview with a federal law enforcement official. Given the FBI’s expansive defintion of “potential violence†in the past, this is a net that could catch almost any group or individual who falls into official disfavor.

The FBI is also urging local police to report suspicious activity by protesters to the Joint Terrorism Task Force, which is run by the FBI. If local police take the hint and start pouring in the dirt, the JTTF could soon be building a “Total Information Awarenessâ€-lite database on those antiwar groups and activists.

If the FBI publicly admits that it is surveilling antiwar groups and urging local police to send in information on protestors, how far might the feds go? It took over a decade after the first big antiwar protests in the 1960s before the American people learned the extent of FBI efforts to suppress and subvert public opposition to the Vietnam War. Is the FBI now considering a similar order to field offices as the one it sent in 1968, telling them to gather information illustrating the “scurrilous and depraved nature of many of the characters, activities habits, and living conditions representative of New Left adherentsâ€â€”but this time focused on those who oppose Bush’s Brave New World?

Is the administration seeking to stifle domestic criticism? Absolutely. Is it carrying out a war on dissent? Probably not—yet. But the trend lines in federal attacks on freedom of speech should raise grave concerns to anyone worried about the First Amendment or about how a future liberal Democratic president such as Hillary Clinton might exploit the precedents that Bush is setting.
Just remember, the terrorists want our freedoms.
 
Similar techniques were in use when Al Gore campaigned in Michigan's U.P.
Pro 2nd and logging protestors were kept well away from the building where Gore spoke.
I didn't hear anyone complaining now complaining then.

Clinton had the Secret Service arrest people who yelled at him while he was jogging, or at rallies.
It barely got a mention outside conservative talk radio.
 
If the author was any more biased in his/her position I would suspect it was written as a joint effort by Hillary, Kennedy, Schumer, Dashell (spelling?), and the rest of the DNC.

It fits their MO of opinion generated by fear, hatred, and mistrust. (Black vs, White, Old vs. Young, Rich vs. Poor, America vs. Corp. America etc..

Makes me sick :rolleyes:
 
ACP230 is right. This was standard procedure in the Clinton Administration. Conservatives were outraged. I remember Rush Limbaugh showing clips of protesters being arrested at Clinton speaking events and then showing clips of similar hecklers and protester harrassing Bush the 1st and Reagan. We were outraged then...we need to be just as outraged now :fire:

Jeff
 
:uhoh:

sounds like yet another law which was void from the day it was enacted.

I'll choose to ignore the 'free speech zones ' should I ever encounter them... why would anyone protest where they were told to by the authority they are protesting against? Kind of defeats the purpose.

stay free.
 
If the author was any more biased in his/her position I would suspect it was written as a joint effort by Hillary, Kennedy, Schumer, Dashell (spelling?), and the rest of the DNC.
I dare you to peruse one of his books in a bookstore, library, wherever.

I don't know that I've ever seen a more scathing (and well-documented) criticism of Clinton's approach to, well, anything, than Bovard's book(s).

Ol' boy ain't liberal, he's just pro-freedom and anti-statist. Sorry if you're backing a guy that supports the kind of behavior that attracts Bovard's attention.

Here is the one you're probably most familiar with. Also worthwhile are this one, and this one (ignore the last if you can't handle some criticism of the way the WOT is being waged.)

(Note also that in my world, "he must be a liberal and therefore biased" doesn't come close to justifying the behavior listed here. Do you think it actually happened this way? If so, is that right and proper for Bush to do it? The 1st amendment says Congress shall pass no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Does that make it ok for the executive branch to do it by decree?)

To all: Clinton did it, and it was yet another thing that we expected from an administration as rotten as that one was. It seems that half of the posters here view Bush Jr as "our guy," and as one who can do no wrong. Or at least, only does wrong as a political maneuver. Or, well, only when those damn liberals make him, because he loves the constitution almost as much as he loves us.

Hint: it might not be that way in real life. The guys in power just might be a serious threat to freedom in this country,
 
Not at all, Derek.....

"It seems that half of the posters here view Bush Jr as "our guy," and as one who can do no wrong. Or at least, only does wrong as a political maneuver."
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Bush was certainly a better choice than Al Gore for our Second Amendment freedoms. I like his 'can do' attitude...it's just some of the things his administration selects as "to do" which disturb us.

That's about all that needs to be said about the decay of the political process in the U.S.:eek:

Choose between the bad guy and the slightly less bad guy?:confused:


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"The guys in power just might be a serious threat to freedom in this country,"
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And the "Gore team" would have been different, under the same circumstances, how?

Things are not going well for freedom in Mudville these days....:scrutiny:
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not backing that type of Governmental behavior. And certainly not implying James Bovard is a liberal. I have 2 of his books at on the shelf next to me, I know better.

My point is the article does little to balance the abuse of the Secret service with information supporting a real threat (small and large) to the President by extremist protesters. In a perfect world there would be no such threat and protesters would be allowed to share the stage with the President in harmony. But in the real world the threat is real and needs to be addressed.

I feel he could have done a much better job if he acknowledged that threat and found fault with the Secret Service based on unreasonable restrictions (which may have existed), was able to point them out and offer a solution not just criticism and warnings by the handful.

In a perfect world we would all respect each other and disagree in nothing but a peaceful way. In the real world America would loose a President a week if we allowed unrestricted access to our President due to free speech issues. I’d love to exercise my freedom of speech in the Oval Office once in a while, but the President has much better things to do than listen to me, and those who wish him harm would like to exercise their free speech within harms distance of the President for evil reasons.

Abuse is never acceptable by anybody, especially our Government. But Mr. Bovard needs to offer solutions along with criticism. Clinton wouldn't have lasted a week if extremists on the right had free access to him, and Bush won't last a week if the extreme left have access to him. Terrorists will win this war if we don’t find a way to find them in time and stop them before it’s too late.

What the Government is doing (in destroying the Constitution and abusing power) is wrong, and we can all agree on that. But the Dems are notorious for screaming bloody murder and pointing fingers without offering new and realistic solutions to the problem. And Mr. Bovard does just that in that article. How would he protect the president? How would he streamline the search for Terrorists in the US? How would he conduct surveillance operations? And how could he do all this without violating the rights of the people or abuse power? How would he do it and still make the President and the people feel safe (and really be safe)?

Truth is he can't without the American people (and the government) being willing to accept the limitations of a restricted Federal Government. And the American people (in general) aren't mature enough for that (in general). I'm not saying Mr. Bovard is a liberal, but he sure seems to get support and express himself the same way (except he has legitimate reasons).

I’m interested in both honest problems (which Mr. Bovard describes) and honest solutions (which he does not). His Bias is in seeing problems everywhere and not seeing the problems he creates by not having a solution or researching potential cures to the problem. He will soon find himself surrounded by people who are mad a He11, and support him to the end, but only create another problem by demanding answers without offering any.

Just my opinion.

Best regards and happy New Year to all,
 
So what else is new?

Wanna understand what an anti-Bush protester feels like?

Try voicing a conservative or Christian idea at any American university. Or in Hollywood.

Plenty of shame to go all around, but it's not as if the Bush critics don't have a voice.
 
When you attempt to define security by what a sign is saying you do not have security except against extremely stupid people. ( yes if they sign says "I will attack the president" you can justifably detain/arrest them that sign could be considered a threat)

This is not a question of security because instead of arresting the protesters they could have searched them and if they felt concerned stand by them.

The continued legal harrasment is obscene ! Refusing someone a jury trial when they could be sent to jail for 6 months is a signe that the you country you live in is seriously flawed .

This is outrageous ! :fire: :banghead:

/free speech zone/

:cuss:

/free speech zone/

It was wrong when done on behalf of Clinton, Bush, Gore or any other political figure.

NukemJim
 
NorthernExtreme,

In the real world America would loose a President a week if we allowed unrestricted access to our President due to free speech issues.

Sure, because those assassins would be too dumb to carry a pro-Bush sign or a little American flag, the Secret Service rounds up the little old ladies and grandpas with the 'No Blood For Oil' signs and puts them in the "Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind" zone. :scrutiny:

Bear in mind that I think the very idea of toting a 'No Blood For Oil' sign is a sure sign of a shallow and knee-jerk grasp of foreign policy, but I seriously doubt that you're going to find the professional hitman or would-be Al-Qaeda martyr by looking for someone lugging a protest sign around. :uhoh:
 
You're right, Tamara

and I do think it dishonors Bush to handle demonstrators this way. But I confess having a hard time feeling sorry for them. It's no different from what the Left does every day, in countless places, at work, in schools, in church, in government.

A pox on anyone who won't let people criticize him. And a double pox on those who routinely stifle their opponents and cry foul when someone looks cross-eyed at themselves.
 
Not surprising....the legal concept of the 'buffer zone' has been around for many a year, and it's no wonder they initiate one around the president.

I'm not exactly keen on how it's being done (specifically targeting dissenters), but this kind of 'viewpoint based injunction' has been held Constitutional for almost 10 years at the least. To borrow and paraphrase from a USSC decision:

"Given the focus of the picketing on 'the president and his staff', the narrowness of the confines around 'his retinue', the fact that protesters could still be seen and heard from the 'sectioned area'...the buffer zone around 'the president and his retinue/motorcade', on balance, burdens no more speech than necessary to accomplish the governmental interests in protecting 'the president' and facilitating an orderly traffic flow on the street."
 
On Dec. 6, 2001, Attorney General John Ashcroft informed the Senate Judiciary Committee, “To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty … your tactics only aid terrorists, for they erode our national unity and … give ammunition to America’s enemies.â€

Orwell couldn't have written it any better....:fire:
 
Might still be true no matter who said it. I think the operative word is 'scare' - not discuss, debate or reason, but scare. As in scaremonger. You know the kind. They run about shouting "THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING", when all about them can plainly see it is not.

John
 
Do you really believe the country is seriously flawed because of the actions of a few? The entire country?

When it is the head of the country that is using unconstitutional laws the actions of a few do matter.

Suppresing of free speech, not violent, disorderly or threatining is WRONG.
Wrong when the Replicans do it, wrong when the Democrats do it.

As for the USSC they have never made a bad decision or one that they had to change. Right:rolleyes:

NukemJim
 
"Do you really believe the country is seriously flawed because of the actions of a few? The entire country? I just don't see it.

Yes, the country IS seriously flawed. But not because of the few or their actions. It is because we allow this sort of thing to continue.
We are afraid to risk our homes, our jobs or our reputations by taking an active stand on this sort of thing. What we forget, as we reach in the 'fridge for another beer, is that by giving in to these unconstitutional decrees, we place our children and grandchildren in much greater danger.

The primary purpose of government is to govern. A government will do whatever it deems necessary to accomplish that goal. Stalin "sacrificed" twenty million farmers so that he could nationalize their farms. Our government sacrifices the Constitution to "protect" us from ourselves and we permit it to happen.

Government is like an unruly child. It will push the limits as far as possible and then push some more. It is up to us, the overly permissive parents, to set limits and then punish when our "child" exceeds the boundaries we have set. Until we are willing to take that step, the unruly child will be master of the house.

Next year we have a general election. We voters hope to send a message to Washington that will cause the government to change it's ways. We hoped to do that last time too-- and the time before that and the time before that and... You get the idea. Someone has said that doing the same thing over and over and hoping for different results is the definition of insanity. Has anyone else noticed that voting booths have soft walls?
 
Similar techniques were in use when Al Gore campaigned in Michigan's U.P.
Pro 2nd and logging protestors were kept well away from the building where Gore spoke.
I didn't hear anyone complaining now complaining then.

Clinton had the Secret Service arrest people who yelled at him while he was jogging, or at rallies.
It barely got a mention outside conservative talk radio.

Thanks, ACP.

If these liberal "protestors" didn't have such a predilection for violence, (and quite a long track record of it to boot) such measures wouldn't be necessary.
 
I see no problem in NOT allowing a (minority) group of bozos from ruining an event...seems like a local republican got sued for allegedly doing just that at some kind of Democrat rally???

It seems to me that giving them a place where they can stand and make their lame-a$$ point without ruining the event for everyone else is a great idea....far nicer than arresting them.



And I agree with Mr. Ashcroft.....to the extent that we show a lack of unity we embolden our enemies.

The bad guys are envisioning another Vietnam...where we back down because of public opinion...

IMHO...we invaded Iraq because we needed to stand up to one bully....simply to prove to the rest of them that we were not to be trifled with...
 
they erode our national unity and … give ammunition to America’s enemies
This is very true. Russia loved the hippie war protestors in the '60s and used to fund the groups that helped organize them. The vitriolic hate they helped foster resulted in the seriously weakened military in the 70's and put our nation at risk. Today, many of the largest anti-US/anti-Bush protests are funded and organized by socialist groups or those with ties to Islamic extremists. Ignoring this fact is no different than ignoring the potential for abuses on the part of the govt. Both are legitimate threats. Protestors today should be allowed equal access to the President, but I think some kind screening for weapons/explosives might be in order. At the very least, if protestors become violent like many of the leftists/anarchists typically do, the Secret Service should pummel them into dog meat.
 
OK...here is an analogy.

You go to a concert.....a performer that you really enjoy...but he/she wears furs...real furs...

So a bunch of PETA protestors show up and scream obscenities...so loud that you can't hear the performance.....they refuse to shut up.

They paid for their tickets...so they have a right to be there.....but should they be allowed to ruin the performance for the people that came to listen...rather than protest????

I mean..I may get all patriotic in a movie and feel like standing up and reciting the pledge of allegiance or sing the national anthem........but I would expect to be removed....(possibly pummeled by the crowd)

And if I went back again I might expect to be seated in a far corner..if I was allowed in at all.

What always slew me was those "Town Meetings" Clinton had...these were supposedly for the exchange of ideas...not just a speech ....and they wouldn't let anyone in that might ask "awkward" questions
 
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