After the war in Europe ended, many Infantry Divisions were staging for an attack on Japan. Had that occurred, the estimated loss of life for our fighting men was a half million, not to mention all the wounded. It would have been devastating to say the least.
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If we had been forced to invade (and we WOULD have, period), Japan would have ended up looking like "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome". Poison gas, captured and copied V1s and V2s, and a whole lot more were in the cards for our side. We would have fielded early .30-06 versions of the M14 and .30-06 copies of the MG42. Against that, the Japanese would have thrown Girl Scouts with bamboo spears and awls. You'd probably have had to go to Hawaii, California or Brazil to meet a living ethnic Japanese. The atomic bombs saved Japanese civilization as we know it.
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Here in my city there is a campaign to erect a WWII memorial to place along with the Korean and Vietnam memorials, before the few living vets expire.
These memorials are only of significance as long as one generation passes on their reverence to the next one.
Now for the dirt in you face part.
Most of the posters here on THR state: my grandfather, uncle, etc. I'm in that generation too; it was my father who was a vet, and grandfather was a WWI vet. "We" appreciate their sacrifice, and try to impress our children with who they were.
How ever, the current generation; full steam ahead, has been "cut off from us through the US Public educational system, and cares less about these things.
Don't believe it? Who was it that voted against a POW veteran, and for a man who is about to weaken the military forces of our nation drastically?
Who is the generation who wants change? Out with the old and on with the new? No more USA, but global this and that.
Old, wise and true words: "There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come, with those that shall come after."
We have been subverted. And forsaken the established principals which have endowed each sucessive generation with what it means to be American.
We have permitted our representative government to not represent us and to represent themselves.
It will be by only "Trusting in God" again that we will restore this nation and survive.
Before the junk tanks are trashed altogether, those excellent torpedoes they used at Pearl were better than anything we had, and the enemy aircraft there were good too.
How about the Ariska rifles their army used? Lots of THR info about them.
I suppose they did not see the utility of tank warfare in Asia, perhaps, but not all of their weaponry was unreliable.
But then, we do not need to be concerned over such things if we will just join the global village persuasion and give peace a chance.
Here in my city there is a campaign to erect a WWII memorial to place along with the Korean and Vietnam memorials, before the few living vets expire.
These memorials are only of significance as long as one generation passes on their reverence to the next one.
Now for the dirt in you face part.
Most of the posters here on THR state: my grandfather, uncle, etc. I'm in that generation too; it was my father who was a vet, and grandfather was a WWI vet. "We" appreciate their sacrifice, and try to impress our children with who they were.
How ever, the current generation; full steam ahead, has been "cut off from us through the US Public educational system, and cares less about these things.
Don't believe it? Who was it that voted against a POW veteran, and for a man who is about to weaken the military forces of our nation drastically?
Who is the generation who wants change? Out with the old and on with the new? No more USA, but global this and that.
Old, wise and true words: "There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come, with those that shall come after."
We have been subverted. And forsaken the established principals which have endowed each sucessive generation with what it means to be American.
We have permitted our representative government to not represent us and to represent themselves.
It will be by only "Trusting in God" again that we will restore this nation and survive.
Before the junk tanks are trashed altogether, those excellent torpedoes they used at Pearl were better than anything we had, and the enemy aircraft there were good too.
How about the Ariska rifles their army used? Lots of THR info about them.
I suppose they did not see the utility of tank warfare in Asia, perhaps, but not all of their weaponry was unreliable.
But then, we do not need to be concerned over such things if we will just join the global village persuasion and give peace a chance.
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KenInColo
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You're So Right Jim,...
...so many of the next generation have been spoon fed so much crap that they have no idea of history. I'm afraid that the history of "The Greatest Generation" is fading fast and will soon be lost forever.
They even think that in some ways, WWs I & II were our [the US] fault. They want to give out reparations to the Japanese. The minute they do that, I'm demanding reparations from them for what they did to my father during his captivity.
...so many of the next generation have been spoon fed so much crap that they have no idea of history. I'm afraid that the history of "The Greatest Generation" is fading fast and will soon be lost forever.
They even think that in some ways, WWs I & II were our [the US] fault. They want to give out reparations to the Japanese. The minute they do that, I'm demanding reparations from them for what they did to my father during his captivity.
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Reviving this thread as its that time of year again.
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SHALL NOT FORGET
REMEMBER PEARL
SHALL NOT FORGET
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I will never forget our veterans and what they went through. I will never forget Pearl Harbor. I speak with veterans all of the time. No one understands what it is like to be placed in harms way in times when you personally don't want to. Those are the times you deal with some rotten feelings. It is part and parcel with being in the service and paying it to Uncle Sam. Being expendable is a part of being a serviceman.
Go and visit them in the veterans administration hospitals where they are bound and limited. where they have little of the outside world. Go and visit the infirmed in their homes. They will know then that people care through action and have not been forgotten.
Those veterans have my heart.
Go and visit them in the veterans administration hospitals where they are bound and limited. where they have little of the outside world. Go and visit the infirmed in their homes. They will know then that people care through action and have not been forgotten.
Those veterans have my heart.
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Well I sure can't forget as I spent 8 months from Aug-08 thru Apr-09 with my office window looking across the harbor and the Arizona Memorial and "BIG MO" Battleship Missouri and Ford Island. It doesn't hurt my Daughters birthday is on Dec 7th.
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tell her happy birthday from thr
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My father was 15 at the time of the attack. Just a bit over three years later, he saw the flag raising on Mount Suribachi (Iwo Jima) in person as an 18 year old rifleman in 4th Marine Division. His brothers were both in the Army Air Corps (one a B25 bombardier, the other later retired from the Air Force with 35 years of service).
The young Soldiers I teach now have Grandfathers who were in Vietnam. Most have never met a WWII vet. I grew up in neighborhoods where everyone's dad was in the war, but most (including mine) weren't much inclined to share their stories and we were brought up not to ask out of respect.
I heard about Iwo Jima exactly twice...once when I was 7-8 years old (I suspect, in retrospect, that he had a few drinks in him at the time, but wasn't drunk) and the second time when I was visiting en-route to Korea in 1998. The next time I saw my father, less than four months later, he was in a hospital bed succumbing to bone cancer.
My link to that time is gone forever, but I won't (can't) forget.
The young Soldiers I teach now have Grandfathers who were in Vietnam. Most have never met a WWII vet. I grew up in neighborhoods where everyone's dad was in the war, but most (including mine) weren't much inclined to share their stories and we were brought up not to ask out of respect.
I heard about Iwo Jima exactly twice...once when I was 7-8 years old (I suspect, in retrospect, that he had a few drinks in him at the time, but wasn't drunk) and the second time when I was visiting en-route to Korea in 1998. The next time I saw my father, less than four months later, he was in a hospital bed succumbing to bone cancer.
My link to that time is gone forever, but I won't (can't) forget.
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WOW thanks for sharing SFC Mark
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