Remington 11-48 cycling problems

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I have a 11-48, 28 ga. that will cycle heavy hunting loads. When I use light target loads it will not eject the shell. These are Winchester AA so not a low quality shell. I removed friction piece and it works fine (see attachment) My question is will removing this cause long term problems or wear?
 

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The 12 gauge uses the spring around the mag tube one way for heavy loads and the other way for light loads.

Please explain further ?

The 11-48 manual indicates no adjustments needed between light and heavy loads. A key issue in friction regulated guns of this nature is the amount of lubrication on the magazine tube. More lube means less friction, and that may allow you to shoot lighter loads and still function. Condition of the friction piece is also important .
 
What is the purpose of the friction piece? Will removing it cause problems?
 
Mine (exactly the same gun) has similar problems. One thing to check is the "slide" plate. Part 60 here: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Products.aspx?catid=5645

There are small rails or ridges on the bottom of it which can get chipped, worn, or broken and they'll cause too much friction as it cycles which slows things down and won't let ligher loads function correctly.

I also find that I need to keep it pretty clean and run it well-lubed with the lighter loads.
 
I am wrong. It has been too long since I had the shotgun apart. I remembered the up and down arrows but not the instructions. This was purchased by my father in the early 50s. And yes, the sucker kicks hard.
 

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The newer guns are gas operated, the 11-48 is recoil operated and therefore will kick more.
 
What is the purpose of the friction piece? Will removing it cause problems?

You can think of the friction piece as a shock obsorber . It prevents the barrel from slamming back into the receiver. Regulating the amount of friction for different loads is limited in this gun. Too much friction will prevent the cycling and too little will cause slamming and the wear and tear that comes with it.
The condition of the friction piece is important as is the amount/type of lube present between the magazine tube and the friction ring. If I remember correctly the ring on this model is a bronze plated steel. Condition of the plating is important. Also the ruffness of the inside surface. One other factor is the tapper on the ends of the friction ring. That tapper meeting the beveled inside surface of the barrel extension and the steel tube at the end of the spring is part of what regulates the pressure and friction as it squeezes the friction ring during cycling.
 
In blowback systems, the bolt is not locked when the gun is fired. This is the defining characteristic of all blowback systems.

In recoil-operated systems the bolt and barrel are locked together.

Gas operated systems work by using some of the gas generated by firing a cartridge, to operate their extraction, reloading and cocking mechanisms. I believe, in addition to the use of gas pressure, they may or may not include a llocked barrel and bolt.
 
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