Remington 11 87 defense shotgun

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I have a Remington 11 87 Premier Skeet shotgun that is gathering dust in my safe. I am going to attend the Defensive Shotgun class at Tac Pro Shooting Center at the end of this month. I am considering purchasing a rifle sighted remchoke barrel for the 11 87 along with an extended magazine. Do any of you guys have experience with this configuration? How has it worked for you? Any other input is appreciated.
 
My priorities would be to make sure the gun fits and make sure the gun runs. I'd worry about sights and capacity after that.

-Fit: Many shooters find the LOP on standard factory stocks too long. A lot of this is preference - though a smaller statured shooter, running a pump gun in a class that teaches a squared-up fighting stance is going to need a short stock. If your stock is too long, I'd look at a youth stock with something like a 12-13" LOP - this solution works for a lot of folks.

-Reliability: You'll probably be shooting a mix of bird, buck, and slugs through the gun in class. I'd run some of each through the gun in advance to try to identify any compatibility issues. In particular, I'd try to get a good volume of the specific type of birdshot you intend to use in the class through the gun in advance. Spend an afternoon running several rounds of clays, or just plinking. Try to get the gun hot and dirty. If it starts to choke on lighter target loads, consider punchier game loads (or just know that you'll have to do a quick strip/lube during a break after ~xxx rounds).

-RS barrel: Preference issue - you'll see beads, ghost rings, rifle sights and optics on shotguns at classes. I prefer some sort of sights for a couple reasons. First, when shooting buckshot at close distances (particularly, the ultra-tight-patterning low recoil buck common today), the "patterning" characteristic of the platform is removed, and you are essentially shooting a single projectile. Placing that single projectile with repeatable precision, for me, requires sights. It is extremely easy to miss small targets at close range with a load of Hornady TAP. It is also extremely amusing to the rest of the class :). Also, sights help to score hits when shooting from unconventional positions. You may not be able to get a solid cheekweld when shooting supine, but you can still align a set of sights. Finally, most shotgun classes include a block of instruction on shooting slugs at distance. Most shooters will find this section far less frustrating with a set of sights on the gun. I'd note, however, that the best slug shooter at one class I attended was a avid deer hunter running a bead-sighted 500. He was effortlessly printing groups at 75 yards that were half the size of the rest of us with rifle sights, ghost rings, and EOTechs.

-Extended Mag: Again, preference. Bigger mag capacity will likely seem like an advantage in some drills, but may seem like a disadvantage after a day of shouldering the extra weight at the front of the gun. No matter how big the tube is, it won't be big enough - part of the point is to spend the weekend stuffing shells. I'd configure the gun however you intend to have it configured and learn to work with it.
 
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I recently converted my old 11-87 to an HD gun I could not change the barrel however since it is a lefty. I removed the bead and put a fibre optic sight on it added the extended mag tube and put a bell and carlson stock on it. As far as using it for your class I would just be sure to keep it well lubed and run what configuration you are most comfortable with. As Bix said I would test different loads for reliability. The class will also be a good indicator of any changes you will want to make to your setup. I used to use a Beretta 390 as my HD shotgun, after I took a class with it I switched to an 870 because the 870 will run anything I feed it. Just my .02
 
The magazine extension is a take it or leave it deal. It isn't going to be big enough no matter what, in a properly run shotgun class. You will still have to learn to load the gun.

Practice loading the gun. A lot. A whole lot.

You're going to learn to hate that little silver button that releases the lifter so you can load a shell, if you're like most folks who use a stock 1100/11-87 in a shotgun class. Look at the button on the 1100 Competition Master model by comparison... http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=185213 .

I'm not one who believes in trying to substitute hardware for software. But to load the gun at the shoulder properly, an 1100/11-87 is pretty much going to need some help, in case you can't solve the problem with what's in the magazine when the problem starts. Either the CM lifter or the proper installation of an Easy Loader ( http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/st...?p=5796&title=REMINGTON+1100/11-87+EASYLOADER ) can help with that. IMHO the Easy Loader is too big by half and can be shortened and still work just as well, but that's just me.

Make double sure the sights are FIRMLY attached and locked down in place once you get the gun sighted in. Check the front sight insert and make sure it's solid in the dovetail.

You'll need a good sling, preferably a two-point style so you can sling it over the shooting shoulder and let it hang in front of you muzzle down.

fwiw,

lpl
 
You're going to learn to hate that little silver button that releases the lifter so you can load a shell, if you're like most folks who use a stock 1100/11-87 in a shotgun class.

God, I only shoot skeet, and I hate that thing. Can't imagine what a day of trying to load in a hurry would be like. (Don't want to, frankly.)
 
That little silver button is the major reason I no longer own an 11-87. I think the 11-87's are very under rated among a lot of shooters. I like a lot about them but have changed to Benelli M-1's and the 870's. Not having to depress the button while loading was one of the main reasons. It is even more difficult when using the 3" shells I usually use when duck hunting.
 
Here is a bad pick of my 11-87 with the Eazy Loader. It was done back when Gunsite took in guns for modification:

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A differant view:
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Thank you for the input.

Thanks guys. I can purchase a second 870 (I already have all the tactical goodies for it) for the cost of a new 11 87 barrel. I believe that is the direction I will go.
 
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