Remington 11-87

[hockeybum]

this is my main gun, but it wont cycle light brass. its the 11-87 super magnum, so its shoots 2 3/4", 3", and 3 1/2" shells, whenever i run 2 3/4" #8 bird shot through it the shell just wont eject.

anybody else have this problem?

should i just cycle more rounds through it or is the gun just not capable of handling such light loads?

thanks

 

[Dave McCracken]

I'd run a case or two of heavier loads through it, then clean it and try the light ones again. Many autos need work polishing.

HTH...

 

[bfhcards]

When I first got mine I took it to shoot some Sporting Clays. I do not have the magnum model but just the 11-87 SPS. After about 100 or so shots it would no longer cycle. I guess it got gunked up. I bought some remmington dri lube and that seems to work well. I think mine also needs to be broken in more. Hopefully all the 3inch copper solids I put down it helped some.

 

[Oldnamvet]

A friend of mine shoots lots of skeet with his 1187 using 1 oz cheap loads of #8. It even cycles my 7/8 oz soft reloads with never a hitch so they will do it.

 

[dead on]

ive had this problem as well. after 50 or so rounds i take it apart and clean it...havent had the problem since.

 

[evbutler462]

Isn't there a piece that goes around the magazine tube when shooting light loads. I forgot what it is called but it comes wirh all new 11-87 3'5" guns, I think.

 

[hockeybum]

i haven't heard of this piece but ill look around

i've cycled a max of 500 rounds through the gun

thanks for the help

 

[Pete409]

The Remington website says that the 11-87 Super Magnum will handle 2 3/4" shells, but it doesn't say WHICH 2 3/4" shells it will handle. While it is safe to shoot all 2 3/4" 12 gauge shells through the gun, that doesn't mean that it will function well with the light loads such as the target loads or the Dove and Quail type loads. Most of the Super Mags require at least a 2 3/4" heavy (1 1/4 ounce) load to cycle properly.

A mistake that MANY people make in buying a 12 gauge auto is that they buy a 3 1/2" Super Magnum when they almost never shoot 3 1/2" shells through it. What they try to shoot most of the time (light 2 3/4" shells) usually won't cycle the gun.

They shouldn't have bought a 3 1/2" magnum in the first place, but you can't get them to listen. They all want the biggest, baddest gun they can find, then they are disappointed when it won't function with the light 2 3/4" loads they try to shoot. IMO, about 90% of the people who buy 3 1/2" super magnum guns would be better served with a 3" magnum gun.

OK, I'm off my soapbox for now.

 

[ArmedBear]

Remington says 'most 2 3/4" loads' and '2 3/4" field loads', so I'd guess that you might not need 1 1/4 oz. shells, but 1 1/8 oz. @ 1290 fps is a standard 'field load' and I wouldn't expect the gun to cycle much less than that.

That said, Pete409 is right on about SuperMagnums.

People wouldn't think of buying a "do everything" rifle for cottontails to elk, but for some reason they think they can get a shotgun that will serve well in all situations. It's just not so.

If you don't have a known, specific reason for buying a 3.5" gun, you will probably regret buying it instead of the regular 3" model.

 

[kirbythegunsmith]

Details

That part for the gas system is called the intensifier ring, and is only meant to be used when shooting the lighter loads, even though forgetfulness is sometimes to be expected.

The intensifier reduces the expansion room inside the gas cylinder so the pressure has a more direct impingement against the seals/o-ring.

Now can I remind the hockeybum to take a look in the owner's manual to see the description, if he happened to have it included with the purchase. Naturally, the manual is available somewhere on the Remington site, so check there if necessary.

Since there is discussion of oversized guns mainly being used for lighter loads, maybe this thread that gathered a lot of steam is relevant.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=246219

This one also contains a link to the Browning chart that lists performance variance in patterns with shorter shells in longer chambers.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=320928

http://www.browning.com/faq/detail.asp?ID=102

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[RNB65]

Match the gun to its intended use. I suggest using the Super Mag for waterfowl hunting and buying a standard 1100 for target/upland shooting. Light loads are often problematic in magnum shotguns and I've never been a big fan of the one-size-fits-all approach.

 

[hockeybum]

I use the gun mainly for duck hunting, so im always running 3 1/2" shells (helps with the really long shots ). I went this weekend and only used 3 1/2" shells, (i try to hunt at least once a week during season).

I go snipe and dove hunting every now and then, i have an Remington 1100 2 3/4", and a browning 3", i just like the 11-87 best and wanted to know if i could resolve my light load problem.

My dad bought the Benelli super black eagle 2, and the thing will cycle the lightest 2 3/4 shells, to the heaviest 3 1/2".

thanks for everything guys