Remington 700 series history of a problem.

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Back in the early 70's I had a Remington 700 in 6MM rem.
It started firing when I pushed off the safety.
It was super accurate---beautiful wood & finish.
I got hot under the collar & sold it to a gunsmith.
Now I wish that I had repaired it & had it today.................:(:(
 
On all the forums I am on, you hear two opinions. 1. It never happens unless the owner or operator screwed up. 2. It happened to me or someone I know (like Howard J above).

Well, since you hear of ADs with Remingtons 700s one-hundred times as often as you do with Winchesters, Rugers, Savage, Tikka/Sako, Mausers, CZ, Howa/Weatherby, Marlin, T/C, and Browning bolt guns combined, I refuse to believe it is just something the press is trumping up. People adjust triggers on all those other brands too and you just hardly ever hear about ADs happening when the safety is disengaged on any of those brands. You just don't hear about law suits against ALL those other firms' bolt guns the way you do about the Rem 700 either. This, and the fact that the designer himself (who has no reason to lie at this point in his life) said there was a problem both in a recent interview and in writing as early as 1947 and again more recently. He also said the trigger was safe if manufactured and maintained correctly, but admitted that it was very prone to issues and was not always manufactured correctly in his opinion after his departure as manager of the assembly line.

My personal belief is that the trigger is more prone to issues than any other bolt gun system out there, and that at times, corners were cut in manufacturing that exasterbated this problem. If 2% to 5% of the 7 million rifles that left the factory fell into this category, you are talking 140,000 to 350,000 rifles that could go bang when the safty is disengaged. That is a problem. Rem 700 lovers can deny it all they want, blame the press and lawyers, call the rest of us stupid and gullible, but it is a problem. Who wants a gun that might discharge for ANY reason other than you pulling the trigger?
 
"Never underestimate the power of denial."

Wow, I never thought my post would create such a stir.
I walked into this issue totally blind and am amused by the responses.

I've read a couple of quotes lately (I have saved a lot of them over the years). One of them is the titile of this post and here's the other that seem to apply to this issue.

"You can't argue with ignorance, but the solution to ignorance is to ask questions, for you can not teach an ignorant man if he chooses not to listen, he must ask for himself"

I'm going to stick with my three old style Savages: .270 w/detachable mag, .308 & 30-06 w/ blind mags.

Now since I like the Rem 700 stock style, is it possible to put one of my Savage barreled actions in a Rem 700 stock?
Has anybody done it?

Or is that blasphemy.....!

I do enjoy these lively and informative discussions.
 
All guns are potentionally dangerous; that is why we have rules such as don't point the muzzle at anything you do not intend to shoot.

I owned a M700 from the 60s and it did not fire without pulling the trigger. It was trully a tack driver and I wish I still owned it.

Lawyers are mostly blood-suckers. The CNBC piece was a tad light on the responsibilities of gun owners and trigger adjustments could make this gun perform this way so don't trust the video as a defective gun that has never been modified.
 
Jackal1, you ask a good question as copied below: I'm sill waiting for a response, as I'm sure you and othere are too.

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Except one of Remington's lawyers, who had one "snap" in court when he took the safety off to demonstrate to the judge it could not happen!

Where did you get this information? What was your source? Remington says the occurrences have never been duplicated by themselves or independent testers hired by the plaintiffs. Without providing a documented source (other than "CNBC said so") I am hesitant to believe it.
 
I don't have an axe to grind one way or another. The fact is I
owned a M700 ADL in 30.06 that was unaltered. On three separate
occasions it discharged when the safety was moved to fire. I got rid
of that rifle and have never owned another Remington. I might buy
a 798, but not an older model 700.
 
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