david bachelder
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I'm not trying to stir up trouble. I have a legitimate question due to a concern of mine.
There is a bit of history here.
First of all my father bought this rifle new. It's a bolt action Remington 700 chambered in 30-06. I'm guessing this was 25 or 30 years ago. From what I remember the gun was safe and dependable for a very long time. I do remember him telling me several years ago that he'd had an unusual experience with it while deer hunting one morning. My Dad was a stickler for safety, we were not allowed to bring a firearm into the camp unless the action was open. Then the gun was to be placed in the rack and left untouched until it was needed at the next hunt.
He told me he had entered his tree stand blind one morning with the gun unloaded and the action open. There was a short ladder that led up the tree to the stand. Once in the stand he placed the butt of the rifle on his thigh, barrel up, and placed one round into the chamber. When he closed the bolt the gun went off. Scaring the crap out of him and shooting a hole in the roof of the blind.
I supposed I always thought he'd made a mistake and accidently bumped the trigger. At this time I knew nothing of the Remington safety issues. My father used the gun several more years without incident.
My father passed away just last month and I inherited the rifle. I cleaned it up to a pristine condition and take a lot of pride in it. Recently I reloaded a box of shells for it, I only keep about fifty rounds and I had given my son about twenty out of my stash. I decided to take the reloads and try to chamber a few of them just to make sure my reloads were up to snuff. I opened the chamber and dropped a round. My left hand was on the fore stock and my right hand was on the bolt. I closed the bolt testing for fit then ejected the round; no problem. I decided to chamber a second so I dropped another one and closed the chamber, the second the bolt closed the gun fired. My hands never moved, I still had my left hand on the stock and my right hand on the bolt.
Fortunately my fathers safety teachings had stuck. I was facing a safe direction, an outside wall away from the only other resident in the house. We live out in the country surrounded by woods and there are no neighbors any where near us. I shot a hole through the wall and off into the woods somewhere.
I did learn a valuable lesson, I will always do chamber testing with dud rounds from now on.
I have been around guns most of my life, I have owned and fired many weapons. I shoot frequently and am very comfortable with my knowledge of firearms. I'm no rookie and when I say I never touched the trigger I am positive that I didn't.
Now for the question. The gun is a keepsake and I can't part with it. On the other hand It's not safe and I'm afraid this may happen again. I can't enjoy the gun knowing that your hand doesn't necessarily have to be on the trigger for it to go off. This makes it threat to me and anyone around me.
If I understand things correctly, I can't expect Remington to fix the problem. I hear they don't acknowledge that the problem exists. Is it possible to have the trigger assembly fixed, replaced or altered to guarantee safety? What are my options? What would the cost be? Would this make the gun safe?
Another question, I had a Remington Pump 760 in 30-06 which I gave to my son. Is he in danger? This rifle has never shown any problem and I know it's as old as the bolt action described above.
I also Have a Remington 788 chambered in 243 Winchester, is this gun safe?
Are all Remington 700 series rifles affected?
There is a bit of history here.
First of all my father bought this rifle new. It's a bolt action Remington 700 chambered in 30-06. I'm guessing this was 25 or 30 years ago. From what I remember the gun was safe and dependable for a very long time. I do remember him telling me several years ago that he'd had an unusual experience with it while deer hunting one morning. My Dad was a stickler for safety, we were not allowed to bring a firearm into the camp unless the action was open. Then the gun was to be placed in the rack and left untouched until it was needed at the next hunt.
He told me he had entered his tree stand blind one morning with the gun unloaded and the action open. There was a short ladder that led up the tree to the stand. Once in the stand he placed the butt of the rifle on his thigh, barrel up, and placed one round into the chamber. When he closed the bolt the gun went off. Scaring the crap out of him and shooting a hole in the roof of the blind.
I supposed I always thought he'd made a mistake and accidently bumped the trigger. At this time I knew nothing of the Remington safety issues. My father used the gun several more years without incident.
My father passed away just last month and I inherited the rifle. I cleaned it up to a pristine condition and take a lot of pride in it. Recently I reloaded a box of shells for it, I only keep about fifty rounds and I had given my son about twenty out of my stash. I decided to take the reloads and try to chamber a few of them just to make sure my reloads were up to snuff. I opened the chamber and dropped a round. My left hand was on the fore stock and my right hand was on the bolt. I closed the bolt testing for fit then ejected the round; no problem. I decided to chamber a second so I dropped another one and closed the chamber, the second the bolt closed the gun fired. My hands never moved, I still had my left hand on the stock and my right hand on the bolt.
Fortunately my fathers safety teachings had stuck. I was facing a safe direction, an outside wall away from the only other resident in the house. We live out in the country surrounded by woods and there are no neighbors any where near us. I shot a hole through the wall and off into the woods somewhere.
I did learn a valuable lesson, I will always do chamber testing with dud rounds from now on.
I have been around guns most of my life, I have owned and fired many weapons. I shoot frequently and am very comfortable with my knowledge of firearms. I'm no rookie and when I say I never touched the trigger I am positive that I didn't.
Now for the question. The gun is a keepsake and I can't part with it. On the other hand It's not safe and I'm afraid this may happen again. I can't enjoy the gun knowing that your hand doesn't necessarily have to be on the trigger for it to go off. This makes it threat to me and anyone around me.
If I understand things correctly, I can't expect Remington to fix the problem. I hear they don't acknowledge that the problem exists. Is it possible to have the trigger assembly fixed, replaced or altered to guarantee safety? What are my options? What would the cost be? Would this make the gun safe?
Another question, I had a Remington Pump 760 in 30-06 which I gave to my son. Is he in danger? This rifle has never shown any problem and I know it's as old as the bolt action described above.
I also Have a Remington 788 chambered in 243 Winchester, is this gun safe?
Are all Remington 700 series rifles affected?