Remington 7600 Carbine or Full Size?

[chas08]

As the title says, I'm pondering the purchase of a Remington 7600 in 30/06. I'd like to hear the pros and cons between the two configurations. I don't own an 06, or a pump rifle. It would primarily be used on Whitetail deer back east in Pa. and NC. I have used the search option enough to know the 7600 is a generally well thought of pump rifle.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

The idea behind a pump rifle is to give you fast follow up shots. That means generally speaking, hunting in thick cover at close range. The carbine would be an advantage under those conditions.

 

[rcmodel]

I'd agree with that.

On the otherhand, a rifle length barrel will hold on target steadier, have a longer sight radius with open sights, give more velocity, and won't blow your eardrums out quite as fast from muzzle blast.

rc

 

[Abel]

The carbine length is still a serious threat to deer out at 300 yards. You just need to sight it in and see how high you need to hold at 300. My guess is about ten inches....easy to hold on the line of the back for deer and have it drop ten inches into the goodies. Go with the carbine and enjoy the advantages of a short barrel.

 

[Dr.Rob]

Carbine. The extra couple inches don't make much difference in a pump gun.

 

[eastbank]

the difference in longer barrel and carbine is a little over 100fps in my rifles. not enough to make a difference in any animal to 300yds. i have both and use the rem pump carbine. eastbank.

 

[Delmar]

Might also wish to consider a 308 if you go to the carbine configuration. Advantages would be a shorter pump stroke, and in short barrels, the 308 gives very little in power up to the larger 06.

 

[R.W.Dale]

Might also wish to consider a 308 if you go to the carbine configuration. Advantages would be a shorter pump stroke, and in short barrels, the 308 gives very little in power up to the larger 06.

All the 7x00 series rifles use the same action and therefore slide length. The .308 guns aren't any shorter than the 06'es.

I say carbine. The 7600 is a delight to handle in carbine format and is deadly to deer sized game out to and beyond 300yds. Plus unlike the autoloader it has the accuracy to back that up. In fact based on my experience with em they're easily the most accurate sporter weight rifle Remington makes and yes even more than the 700!

 

[chas08]

Well, y'all are definitely swaying me toward the carbine. I didnt expect that. What kind of accuracy do you get out of yours? I wouldn't be against a .308 or a .270 if one for the right price came along. I just want an 06 because
it is such a classic, and I don't own one.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I've owned several and not had a 7600/7615 yet that wasn't a sub MOA shooter for 5 shots @ 100

 

[cowpoke]

I have it in 243. Fine rifle. 3/4 in at 100 yds

 

[sansone]

my 22" 7600 is sub moa with handload. But with cheap factory ammo it was 2MOA. Never tried any "fancy" factory ammo. These kick hard with 30-06 so be aware the wood version has a hard metal recoil pad. The action stroke is the same for ALL cartridges. I would buy 22"brrl and .270 or .308 / both kick less than 30-06

 

[sansone]

cowpoke- mine is 243 and submoa with my handload 87gr spitzer... first rifle I grab to shoot critters more than 100yds.. at the public range everyone wants to hold it

 

[chas08]

Sub MOA is way better than I expected to hear. I was anticipating 1.5"-2" MOA as an average. I like to keep a scope as low as possible. Will a set of low rings on a Leupold one piece base clear the barrel with a Leupold VX-II 3x9x40 on top? I have one that needs a rifle.

 

[Abel]

The 7600 has the raised Monte Carlo stock, so you may need the medium height just to see into the scope.

 

[Maverick223]

Rifle length for me...but 7mm-08Rem. (or maybe a .280Rem.) for me as well. IIRC the carbine has a 18.5in. bbl and the rifle has a 22in. bore. While 20in. would be fine, 18.5in. is just too short for my taste. They are a fine rifle, but remember to keep the loads on the moderate side, these rifles are not known to have the strongest action.

 

[eastbank]

i beg to differ, the 760,s and 7600,s are strong. they just don,t have the camming action of the bolt for extraction but will take a massive overload. i looked at a 7600 in 243 that was overloaded with h-110,thinking it was h-380. the magazine was blown clear, the case head was welded in bolt head and the reviever sides were bowed but the shooter never got any gas in his face at all and all that was hurt was his pride and his rifle. i don,t think he would have fared any better with a bolt action rifle. here is my rem. 7600 carbine in 3006 with rem. model 6 wood and 2x7 leupold scope, there is no better woods rifle for me. it shoots constant 1.5-2.0 inch groups at 100yds and i don,t mean with reduced loads either. eastbank.

 

[Maverick223]

i beg to differ, the 760,s and 7600,s are strong. they just don,t have the camming action of the bolt for extraction but will take a massive overload. [...] i don,t mean with reduced loads either.

I am not suggesting that it be downloaded, that isn't necessary. They can all handle SAAMI spec. loads, I just don't think it is the best platform to hotrod.

 

[Dr.Rob]

I'm not saying every 760 can do this but I saw my dad put 3 rounds through the bottom of a styrofoam cup at 300 yards with his in 30-06 and match grade ammo.

It was a really good day at the range for sure. That rifle regularly shoots 3 shot groups under an inch at 100 yards. It CAN string shots when you heat it up, but from a cold to medium warm bore it's a really accurate rifle.

 

[chas08]

Thanks for all the input gentlemen. I've got my local gun guy looking for a decent used one. They are pretty scarce around here. And at near $700 to order one new, well, thats going to have to wait until after Christmas. I may have to make this years Pa. trip without it, but there is one in my future at some point.

 

[jim243]

I have a 1974 Remington 7600 30-06 and it shoots 1 MOA at 100 yards. I'd say go with it. For the area you are hunting it is the best choice, next to a Marlin 336C in 35 Remington the 7600 is my choice.


Good shooting
Jim