Remington 7615 .223 Pump - Anyone Have or Try One?

[bhk]

I have been researching this rifle, but have not personally seen or shot one. I am considering the 7615 as a replacement for my recently departed mini-14 (no, I don't miss it). The main use will be for a truck/farm/camp gun and will be scoped for occasional long range shots at coyotes and groundhogs. It is not to replace my accurate bolt .223 Sako dedicated to long range coyote hunting. I like the 7615 concept of using AR magazines so quick loading and safe unloading is possible.

I know an AR or other military based rifle would be a great choice, but after decades of trying, I just cannot get used to the egronomics of the AR platform (even after a spell in the Army in the early 70's). I have just spent way to much trigger time with sporting configured stocks.

Any thoughts?

 

[Navy joe]

If the gun was $300 or under everyone in america should own one. But, it is close to $700 in my local shop that has good prices. Ridiculous.

Save money buy an SU-16 if you like the AR mags.

A K-31 makes a dandy truck gun, mag loaded for easy unloading. That is mine right now. I ponder getting a Garand at some point for a truck gun too, hard to get one cheap though.

 

[bhk]

A Kel-tec is a possibility, but I really haven't enjoyed shooting my buddies SU-16C a great deal. It has malfunctioned more than it should and seems to be really sensitive to hold (as it relates to group placement). But it is a possibility. I know the general feeling is they are quite good. My dealer can sell me a 7615 for 650. It is high.

 

[nero45acp]

Agree with Navy Joe, it's priced way too high. Also, I handled one and found that unless I was careful my hand smacked the magwell when I racked the slide.


nero

 

[eab]

Never shot one but I handled it and I can't get over its looks. I am pretty forgiving in the looks departement for guns, but that thing is just plain UGLY!

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

+1 I don't like the looks or action either (they should have just made it semi-auto). If you like that configuration of a gun what about a .223 (or other caliber) Saiga from Correia? Doesn't use AR mags though if that's important.

 

[dmckean44]

Get the SU-16CA, it's more comfortable to shoot than the SU-16C. Also replace the deflecting charger handle with the orginal one from the A or B models, it causes stovepipes. Other than that it's a great gun.

 

[Mannlicher]

To each his own, but I would just buy another Mini14, if you don't like the AR platform.

 

[Kilroy]

On the 7600, the primary extraction is pretty weak. It is hard to muscle a stuck case out of the chamber. Reliability under use is fair. I had a chance to see several in use during a range competition by numerous LE.

 

[mljdeckard]

I haven't shot one, but I handled one at Impact. The reps were steering people towards the Kel-tec there as well.

My dad has had a a beat-up 760 in .257 roberts for over 40 years. He says it makes him look like a really good shot.

 

[Radagast]

I've shot one, they do need a strong stroke on the pump to make them function. The factory ghost ring sights are pretty useless for accuirate shooting past 50 metres, a scope is a plus.

They are quite popular here in Australia where semi autos are banned,

 

[bhk]

I appreciate all the feedback and still haven't decided what to do. No hurry, I guess. I really liked the mini 14 except from the accuracy standpoint (which I really got hung up on). It fit me well, as I much prefer traditional stock designs. I may just have to reevaluate my need for extreme accuracy in this detachable-magazine farm/truck gun nich. My regular varmint hunting needs are taken of with my .223 Sako.

 

[slzy]

if the shtf actually,you may want a weapon you can work with one hand.

 

[anotherinkling]

Haven't handled one either but have done a fair amount of reading up on them and will likely pick one up later in the summer. The Gun Source has the ghost ring version for $600. More reliable than a semi-auto, faster than a bolt and legal where I live (as long as I stick w/ 10-round mags)...sounds pretty good to me. I plan to put a 2-7x scope on mine.

 

[Bergeron]

If you like the 7600 and aren't too attached to the idea of AR mags, there were 7600s (or maybe they were 760s??) made in .223 that did not differ from the standard factory model except in caliber. I remember seeing them for sale in the $300-500 range.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Anyone know if you can 'accurize' a Mini-14? My dad has one and it's a pleasure to shoot although a HBAR is more accurate. There are tons of companies that make tack-driving 10/22 rifles, maybe they can make Mini-14s into shooters too.
One thing I don't like is working a pump with your support hand. Talk about messing up the sight picture (especially if you plan on resting the foregrip on something for a stable support). I think in that case a bolt gun would be faster.

 

[dmckean44]

Anyone know if you can 'accurize' a Mini-14?

I looked into it some before I sold mine. Everyone says the thing barrel is the only thing holding the gun back. You can either gun it back a couple inches or replace the thing to get better accuracy. It makes sense to me, my Ruger Deerfield is very similar to the mini-14 and it's a heck of a lot more accurate with it's thick barrel.

 

[nero45acp]

http://www.raacfirearms.com/Saiga.htm


nero

 

[middy]

if the shtf actually,you may want a weapon you can work with one hand.

Not to mention firing prone... ever tried to work a pump-action from the prone position? :banghead:

Prone is an invaluable position when your targets are shooting back...

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

+1 for the Saiga or any other Kalashnikov based platform.

Why not get an AK-74 in 5.45 - almost no recoil, accurate, and more reliable than anything else mentioned above (Saiga's excluded).

 

[Kestryll]

Anyone know if you can 'accurize' a Mini-14?

Adding a muzzle brake/flash hider seems to lessen barrel whip and tighten groups.
Shortening the barrel also affects the harmonics and makes for a stiffer barrel.
Bedding tends to reduce fliers, a smaller gas port reduces the pounding of the action making for less 'jump' and trigger jobs make for less movement just prior to firing.

If you just want to spend the money and get it 'done up' check out ASIfor barrel conversion/replacement.
http://www.accuracysystemsinc.com/ruger_mini_prices.html

 

[ArmedBear]

BTW ASI now does a low-budget upgrade.

Their "built" Mini-14's have always been top-notch rifles, but they're steep. The low-end upgrade gives you about the claimed accuracy of an AR for a few hundred bucks, in stainless. This would make a great working gun, IMO.

Also, I've seen some used BLR's for $400 in excellent condition. In the right caliber, that would be a helluva good ranch gun. Despite being a lever gun, it has a detachable box magazine.

 

[sterling180]

I would have like one,as an alternative to a bolt or lever-action rifle,but because of the Hungerford massacre,19 years ago,they were banned along with semi-auto, centrefires.It really sucks,that it was decided too "lethal" for civillians to own.