Remington Express?

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lsudave

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Hi, I'm new to the spring air rifle concept, although I did have pumps growing up. My brother has stirred my interest, he has some model of Gamo that he uses to plink and take out rats at his house, and I'm impressed with the accuracy and power it brings.

While browsing around looking for centerfire ammo deals, I glanced at Midway's clearance site, and found the Remington Express .177 with wooden stock marked down to 56$ + shipping. Seems like a fair deal, even with shipping; so I ordered 2 (one for me, one for my college-aged son), along with some marked-down 9mm NATO rounds and the requisite filler item for reduced shipping (a cheap aluminum knife/shank that brings shipping down).

Anyone else have this gun, any impressions? What little I read online seems to be generally favorable.
 
The rifles came in, and we had a good time! Brought them over and shot at my brother's house, got the scopes sighted in at about 50'; able to put the pellets in a 1 inch grouping on the bullseye (with a couple of flyers from shooter malfunction). Very accurate as far as I'm concerned.

First couple of pellets sounded louder than a 22lr, but we burned off the oil after a few rounds and it was fairly quiet afterwards. Great fun, cheaper and easier than dealing with 'real' firearms for plinking.
If there are any still available at this price, I'd say it's a no-brainer:)

My brother traded the Gamo in on a Ruger Silent Hawk, and has it tricked out for night rat shooting...the scope is sighted in, and he has a Sony camcorder clamped to the scope (the camcorder has an IR mode). He also has a cheap IR LED light from Harbor Freight set up, and a cheap come security camera system (also with IR, also from Harbor Freight ;) ), so the entire back yard is lit up in the IR spectrum (but dark to the naked eye). He's out there sniping the little devils all over the place... you can scan through the security camera video to see their patterns, and then he sets up and takes a few out each night.
 
NICE!

I love killing rats. Rat poison is probably more effective but not nearly as fun. I had some footage of me shooting very large rats out of my bedroom window to the corn crib. I lost the footage, but 17 hmr is very impressive in slow motion.

Post a video if you can..
 
I ordered one too, rec'd it yesterday. As expected it's a Chinese Diana 34 clone with a different trigger. It's made like an Umarex/Ruger so I imagine it's from the same factory. I like the looks of the stock, good shape, grain, color and checkering for a gun this cheap. Metal finish is rather rough and has a brown tint which I suppose is poor or incorrect bluing and a little rust mixed in?
The main seal was so dry (actually just very little of the incorrect WD40 type lube) that when cocking it made a terrible squeaking sound like wipers on a dry windshield. A couple drops of motor oil fixed that. After lube and ~30 shots the cocking effort measured a peak of 32lbs. Lots of friction so I suspect that to drop to 28 or so after a tune. The breech seal was sitting flush and thus leaked so a .010" Crosman shim fixed that.
Power was 13ftlbs with a variety of pellets... Obviously something wrong there so I took it apart. The most obvious problem was the main seal which is without question the worst I've ever seen! I have no ideal how they could damage a seal so badly, it's as if it was done on purpose because I can't see how this would happen by accident. Also the fit of the piston and sleeve to the spring was so tight that pulling the spring out brought the piston with it despite the strong resistance. Then it took 30+lbs force to pull the spring out of the piston which pulled the liner out with it. The piston, liner and spring are classic Chinese quality but should be fine after some work.
I always test the bore by pushing pellets thru by hand to check for roughness and tight spots. It had a tight spot about 2" down the bore which is typical, but so tight that after that the pellet fell via gravity to the next tight spot which was classic damage at the last couple mm of the muzzle.
Transfer port and breech surface are classic rough Chinese quality.
There is virtually no barrel droop but it does point off to the right due to sloppy machine work, which is the holes in the receiver for the barrel pivot are not true. This is basically impossible to correct without a milling machine and new custom pivot sleeve so it'll be a backyard repair/patch job and not ideal. The issue isn't that it points to the side, it's that the alignment between the ears and barrel block are not true which makes it very difficult to get a snug and true fit to hold the barrel in alignment shot to shot. Not unusual for a Chinese gun, just one of those things you have to deal with.
It's still apart to correct fatal flaws and tune, but will report results whenever I get around to finishing it.
The trigger is kinda cool but not as good as I hoped. A little work to improve the machine work has already made it better, but it needs some mods to get it as good as a T05 clone. So I think the trigger design is good, it just fell short due to cheaping out.
The trigger blade and sear is easy to get out, no need to remove the assy from the gun.
Basically it involves truing and sharpening the one stamped sear. There is also a sear adj screw with three lock washers, which I removed two to make trigger pull shorter, and I adjusted the spring tension down.
I also modded the safety which annoyed me but that's another story. To improve the trigger further will require more advanced mods but shouldn't be too hard.
So overall it's a bit out of the ordinary in the flaw dept, but not too bad and for $56 you can't complain. I would never consider shooting it as-is (at least not this one), but after a tune I think it'll ok. The barrel is a bit oversize so it may require oversize pellets, or it may be fubar which makes the gun as whole junk, time will tell...

Add: The scope is a typical 4x32 like the one that comes with a Ruger except it has no name on it, only "4x32".
The scope mounts are useless imo so plan on buying something like these:
http://tinyurl.com/q4gzars or http://tinyurl.com/nonnze4
But know there there isn't a hole for the setscrew/stop pin so if they don't hold you will need to either drill a hole or mod the mount to grip better. The one-piece mount is the one to get if you need to do mods. Which I can explain if anyone needs.
The rail on the gun is rather rough and sharp so I imagine that greatly improves grip. Fyi...
 
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ironworkerwill
NICE!

I love killing rats. Rat poison is probably more effective but not nearly as fun. I had some footage of me shooting very large rats out of my bedroom window to the corn crib. I lost the footage, but 17 hmr is very impressive in slow motion.

Post a video if you can..
I'll take some pics, and try to get a good video. Poison seems to be not an option, as our mom is staying with him (she has some pugs that try to eat everything... one got really sick on some plants recently). Don't want to risk the pets.

I seem to have been more lucky with ours. The bluing is nice, and there were no squeaks. I don't pretend to know the differences between "good" and Chinese models, but will accept that you should expect higher quality from more expensive brands. The Ruger and Remingtons seem to operate nicely enough to suit us. I didn't have to do anything to ours yet, but this is just one session. He swapped the Gamo out due to some issues.

The scope mounts do seem atrocious, so I will plan on finding better ones. Re the actual scopes- not a lot to compare with in my experience. The vast majority of my rifle experience was iron peep sights on a 50 yard range as a teen (was in a Jr Deputy program where we target shot with 22 lr's), so any functional optics are a plus for my aging vision.

He uses Crosman Premiers in the Ruger, and I grabbed a cheapo box of Daisy flat head pellets in my order. I know they probably aren't the best by any stretch, but they seem accurate enough for me, and I've read that the first couple hundred rounds are a break in period; so I figure I could blow through those to break it in.
 
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