Remington Mdl 12 pump .22 rimfire

[dagger dog]

My bosses' wifes sister found the old gun in peices in the bottom drawer of a chest of drawers she was donating to the Salvation Army. She asked me if I would like to have it, and of course I said yes!

No bluing left on any visable spots, was dissasembled ,the trigger spring, takedown screw are missing a small stove bolt was in the bag of parts I guess a substitute for the take down screw. Just spent the evening cleaning thick wax deposits and 0000 steel wooling with Kroil to remove the worst of the rust, not to bad ,the bore looks like it is going to clean up OK and most of the parts really don't show that much wear. Hope I can make a shooter out of it.

Here's the upshot, I'm not a puzzle solver of any type! I've got most of it back together but am having problems getting the bolt and slide to fit into the receiver. Tried Numrich for a breakdown but all they have on the mdl 12 is drawings that are not to scale and are certainly not in any sort of geographical system to help in reassembly.

Anyone know of drawings other than Numrich, tried the Remington site with no help. I would be forever in someones debt if they could help me out.

thanks in advance dagger dog

 

[roklok]

I dont have access to drawings, but I may be able to help. I have a model 121, and I believe it shares the same mechanics of the model 12. The "action bar" (I am not sure what Remington calls it) assembly slides in from the rear of the receiver after the forend is removed. There is a clearance cut in the "ceiling" of the receiver near the back that allows the bolt to be positioned on top of the "action bar". If you look at the inside of the receiver you should see two relieved areas in the top. One is directly behind the breech and is the locking recess that the bolt engages. The other towards the rear is the recess that allows assembly and dissasembly. Install the action bar-magazine tube assembly first, and then install the bolt by lining up the action bar assembly and the recess in the rear of the receiver. You may have to slide the action a little one way or another, but the bolt should drop into place fairly easily. I remove my bolt each time I clean the bore so that I can clean from the breech. I hope this helps, and I hope I was able to explain the process adequately.

 

[dagger dog]

Hey roklok,

Yeah, I see that second releif area that machined into the under side of the receiver, and the instructions are clear, I'm going to try it out and see what happens. The 121 and 12 ARE very similar.

thank bud!

 

[dagger dog]

Worked like you said it would! Now all I need to do is order a few missing parts!

Thanks a million, and if there is anything I cando for you all you need do is ask!

 

[a5werkes]

Dagger dog,

you will find this link pretty handy....complete factory take down manual for the Remington 12 .22.


http://stevespages.com/pdf/remington_12.pdf

 

[dagger dog]

a5,

A BIG tip o' the hat! Dang if it ain't like Christmas early!

thank you sir

 

[dagger dog]

Rok and a5,

With y'alls help I got the old rifle shootin'! Still have to order a few parts and I'm going to try to repair the stock, there is a big chunk missing and several cracks. Even with a stove bolt in place of the take down bolt the rifle feeds fires and ejects flawlessly with shorts and long rifles I didn't have any longs to try.

I'm seriously thinking about trying a do it it yourself Parkerizing kit in black. According to the pricing book I have, the rifle is not that desireable as a collector, being in the high 700,000 production run, a later configuration and the condition is poor. Here is a couple pics, as you can see it has no blue left and the big chunk missing on the left side near the back of the trigger guard.

I substituted a ball point pen spring for the trigger plunger spring until I can obtain the correct part,and of course the original type take down bolt instead of the stove bolt. The crud was packed into every crevice of the receiver so thick it had to be soaked and scraped. I'll bet it just was too dirty to operate and the missing parts were lost over the years.

I'm going to soak the wood in denatured alcohol let it dry then do the 200 degree oven thing to degrease the stock, then raise the dents and see if I can Acra Glass and pin the cracks in the stock. I hope the bore will clean up more as I scrub. I was certian that the chamber would not turn loose of the case but it proved me wrong.

Again thanks so much for your help.

dagger dog

 

[roklok]

GREAT !! Glad to hear you got it together and working. I really like these old Remington pumps. My 1941 manufactured 121 is worn completely silver-grey but still shoots awesome. It feeds anything from shorts to LRs perfectly and has accounted for untold numbers of small game and pests over the years. Certainly do what you want, but personally I would maybe hit the metal with some fine steel wool soaked in oil and call it good. It looks like it would have an aged patina to it.

ENJOY !

 

[dagger dog]

Some follow up on the Model 12, got out the 0000 steelwool, bronze brush, Kroil, and a drill and was giving the chamber a polishing, then decided to go on and clean up the bore, and while pushing the extra tight brush through to the muzzle as I got about 4" from the muzzle you can feel a loose spot, THE DANG BARREL IS BULGED, it's real hard to tell by looking at the out side but you can feel it and with a bore light from the chamber end looking into the muzzle you can see it.

So I started researching relining, some info from Brownells site even goes into the process with a hand drill and gluing the liner in with ACRA-GLAS.

A local gunsmith quoted 120 bucks , which to me seems a fair price, he also asked me how far back the bulge was, and then made the statement that being that far back it might not affect accuracy, and that the max velocity should already have been reached by then.I'm going to shoot it first and see if it does require relining.

So far I have repaired some of the cracks in the stock and have received and installed the threaded take down screw receiver bushing,on the left side of the receiver, and am waiting on the new take down screw to arrive from Numrich so I can install the other plain bushing and keeper that retains the take down screw in the receiver so it doesn't fall out ,when the rifle is taken apart for transport. I am also waiting on the correct trigger spring.

I'm going to try to raise some dents in the stock and then repair the large missing peice of wedge shaped wood at the wrist, once that has been accomplished, I will re-stain and fill the stock and fore arm, and give it a boiled linseed oil finish.

By the way roklok, I am going to leave the brown patina it seems to go well with the old gun, and it's kind of grown on me ( not me ,the gun).

 

[dd in MA]

Rem Model 12

I have one marked Gallery Special. Here is some info that I have in a file.



http://www.remington.com/library/history/firearm_models/rimfire/model_12.asp

Notes: This first pump-action Remington was designed by John Pederson. It is a straightforward design with no pistol grip and is a takedown design. Variants include the Remington 12B Gallery rifle, with an octagonal barrel and chambered only for .22 Short; the Model 12C NRA Target Grade rifle, with a 24-inch octagonal barrel; and the Model 12CS, a weapon built in small numbers.

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Model 12
Description:
Slide-action, solid-breech, hammerless, takedown, side-ejection rifle.
Introduction Year:
1909
Year Discontinued:
1936
Total Production:
Approximately 832,000
Designer/Inventor:
J.D. Pedersen
Action Type:
Slide-action
Caliber/Gauge:
22 short, 22 long, 22 long rifle
Serial Number Blocks:
Starting: 00001
Ending: 820,759
Grades Offered:
12A Basic Model
12B Gallery Special
12C Target
12D Peerless
12E Expert
12F Premier
12C N.R.A. Target Grades
12CS, DS, ES, FS chambered for .22 Rem Special cartridges and quality of finish
Variations:
none

 

[dd in MA]

Rem Model 12

BTW, I need info on how to remove a burr from the lip of the chamber, if possible without taking the rifle apart (again).

 

[dagger dog]

dd,

Brownells offers this#590-009-022 a chamber swaging tool by MENCK, for $22.00 it is insreted into the chamber and either tapped or turned to "iron out" the burr caused from dry firing. But you have to dissasemble again !

Mine is a 12A late production run ser# 788---, found a site with copys of hand written Remington factory production runs and found mine was made in May of '29 the year of the start of the "Great Depression".

 

[dd in MA]

Thanks for the response DaggerDog. Will look at that Brownell's tool.

My Rem is a Gallery Special in .22 Short w/a S/N of 289xxx.

Could you provide a URL for the S/N info that you have.

dd

 

[dagger dog]

dd,

Here it is -----www.remingtonsociety.com/rsa/questions/barrel codes.


Go into the photo gallery and do a search for Model 12 and put it up as a slide show. very nice!