Remington must think I'm stupid (R25 weight)

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I had researched the remington R25 extensively and was seriously considering buying it. So I held one at dick sporting goods and immediately noticed remingtons claimed weight of 7.75 lbs on their website had to be off. It felt much heavier. So I unpackaged a fish scale right in the store and put the gun on that. Trigger lock off, magazine off, it weighed in at 9 lbs! The difference of 1.25 lbs doesn't sound like much but to me that's the difference between being able to carry in the woods hunting all day and not. I know DPMS makes this gun for remington, but their closest version that actually tell the true weight. This really leads me to believe remington is flat out lying about the rifles weight.

Once again I'm disappointed in a remington product. Everytime I really want to like something of their, I try it out and I'm disappointed with it and end up buying something else.
 
Is it possible that the fish scale was inaccurate?

Until you weigh the gun on a correctly calibrated scale, I wouldn't go making accusations.
 
yeah, fish scales are not known for their accuracy.......it honestly wouldnt surprise me to see one that was 1-1.5lbs off........

also, did you weigh the rifle with a magazine and optics?......chances are the listed weight of 7.75lbs is for the unloaded rifle w/out optics.
 
I'd say the fish scale is righter then Remington is.

I don't think it is possible to build a 20" AR-10 weighing 7 3/4 pounds.

Seems to me the add copy guy got the AR-15 weight confused with the AR-10 weight.

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Yup, I would also think the fish scale is right. The remington site says average weight, not claimed weight.
 
I don't trust anything new with a Remington badge on it, too may bad experences over the last decade. Won't chamber a round, jamming issues, horrable rusting issues, poor accuracy the list goes on and on and on. Remington easly has the worst QC in the industry. I think they are over the advertised weight as well, my Savage weights almost 7.5lbs scoped and loaded. The R25 felt heavier then that unscoped and unloaded.
 
jon86 said:
Is it possible that the fish scale was inaccurate?

Until you weigh the gun on a correctly calibrated scale, I wouldn't go making accusations.
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I would definitely do this if I was writing it on the website. But for me I was just getting an idea and for that I don't need an accurate scale. Most bolt guns are in the 7 lb range and you could tell just by holding both next to each other the estimate was off. I first grabbed it and said to the guy at the counter this feels more like 9 lbs.

The list weight is in fact unload with no scopes and that is what I weighed. It is average weight but i seriously doubt any particular rifle will vary in weight by 1.5 lbs. That would also have to mean there are some R25 weighing a lot less than 7.75 to average out the weight.

DPMS does make the LR308L (stands for long range 308 lightweight) in an AR10 that claimed to be less than 8 lbs. This I actually believe this because it has a carbon fiber grip and was built specifically to save weight. Unfortunately i've never seen one on stock and you can only order them and now I definitely don't want to order one before I've held it.
 
Many weights listed are not accurate. Never seen one off that bad, but I weigh everything on postal scales and have noted quite a descrepency with many firearms, stocks, scopes etc.

Savage rifles used to use aluminum and plastic for their triggerguards and bottom metal. It has been several years since they changed to steel components on many of their guns. That added over 1/2 lb to their actual weighs and they still haven't updated the specs they show online.
 
I have the R-25 .308 and it is closer to 9 lbs without glass. It is a pig of a gun. I was going to get the .243 for my kid and put an adjustable stock on it but it was too heavy.
 
i too read about the r25 and was tempted to get one until i held one. far too heavy for me and the walking yote hunting i like.
 
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I just sold mine, it was the weight that made me sell it. The accuracy was great, functioned great, louzy trigger pull, changed that, but didn't like the weight. Al
 
On the other hand, sometimes it goes the other way... Springfield advertises their Standard M1A's as weighing 9.3 lbs., but according to my scale, mine weighs 8.5 lbs. The older number was probably from back when they were putting them in GI stocks. Mine has SAI's newer plastic stock, which is a good bit lighter than wood or fiberglass.
 
They know many people believe everything they read. Doesn't every ad lie, practically? Hey, that's how you sell more stuff. Modern marketing!
 
Why would a fish scale show more weight than was hanging from it??? :evil:

I was considering an R25 in .243 years ago, until I held it. It is just plain heavy. Sure it supports larger cartridges, and maybe one day I will revisit the idea of an AR10 style rifle, but I am happy with my variant chambered AR15 build that weighs less with optics than the R25 without yet still maintains ample power.
 
Remington is probably aware that if they weren't truthful about the weight of a rifle, that someone would eventually pick it up and notice. The AR10 rifles are heavy, that's the thing. Add mounts, a scope and a magazine with ammo and it does become a load. But, they do shoot well.
 
Why would a fish scale show more weight than was hanging from it???
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Hmmmm.... good point, Come to think of it, I think my fish scale reads low..... its ok though, I just go ahead and compensate by adding 2 lbs to whatever the scale reads...

I've had a hankering for an AR-10 for a while, but aside from being quite pricey, they all seem to come in around 9 to 11 lbs..... I'm no weakling, but when walking around the woods I do like to follow the path of least resistance, and 10 lb AR-10s are not allowed on that path....

It is kind of surprising that Remington was off by 1.25 lb on their advertised weight.... kind of makes me curious about how close all my rifles are to their claimed weight.
 
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