Remington New Model for Competition

[Crawdad1]

Barrel making is tough process with many ways to commit errors, here is some interesting information,

"If there’s a thread of consistency evident anywhere, it’s that every aspect of the barrel-making process is critical; it seems there are no unimportant steps in the transformation of a bar of steel into a gun barrel. And those steps begin with the selection of the steel itself."

"Some makers, like John Krieger, for example, who produces both cut- and button-rifled barrels, have embraced cryogenic stress relieving, but he makes no accuracy claims for it." "Before cryoing, Krieger told me in a recent conversation, he would often scrap three or four barrels out of 10 because the deep-hole drilling operation would produce blanks having more than .005-inch run-out when turned on centers."


The types of steel used, stress relieving, bit drift, grove cutting and land polishing all are critical steps in making a barrel and even more critical when designating that barrel as "Match Grade."

 

[LonesomePigeon]

I have an old Navy Arms "Deluxe Model" from 1987 that I got used for $185. I doubt the seller knew what it was. It has the progressive rifling and silver trigger guard but it does not have a dovetail front sight. I believe the new Pietta "Shooter's Model" does have a dovetail front sight. Dixie Gunworks sells the "Shooter's Model" and they also sell another one they call the Dixie Remington New Model Army Revolver http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=3533 . I'm not sure if it has a dovetail front sight but that might be something to find out about if you plan on shooting in the "as issued" category.

Here is a range report I did on my "Deluxe Model". I am not the best shooter so the gun is probably capable of more. http://1858remington.com/discuss/index.php?topic=9524.0

 

[Crawdad1]

That first target is impressive and it seems to me that your Remington likes the 2Fg as opposed to the 3Fg or the bore is fouling and causing the groups to open.

Have you tried the 3Fg with a completely clean bore?

 

[LonesomePigeon]

Crawdad, I was using 3F exclusively prior to doing that report but to tell the truth I don't really remember the results. I seem to remember being impressed with the 2F when I tried it. I am out of 2F now so I guess I will be trying 3F again soon and I will post some targets when I get the chance.

 

[Saddlebag Preacher]

yep, a true 40 yards with a range finder. Now, that is POA with 40 grains 3FG Goex and a Hornady .457 round ball crimped in. It is not as accurate with .454, but still shoots good. Any .452 and it opens up. I figure it's not hitting the lands and grooves tight enough.

I reload BP .45 Cold and Schofield shells, but using anything smaller than a .454 DIA bullet isn't accurate.

I wouldn't had made it a cartridge conversion if I hadn't got it so cheap. But I've used it in western reenacting and some other things and it sure is pretty. Raven from the CAS forum, who works with Walter KirsK and does great work did this for me to assure it was timed and fitted properly.

The little one is my hideout for under my frock coat as a surprise.

 

[D. Buck Stopshere]

Lonesome Pigeon,

Must have been an oversight on yours at the factory. I have two Pietta Rem. Deluxe models from the mid '80's (see one in the photo in my post on page 1). Both have the silver triggerguard and the dovetail front sight and the larger grip frame, same as all Remingtons do today.

At the time in the '70's & '80's, Remington repros had a "two-finger grip". The Deluxe Model had a larger grip frame to hold three fingers. That coupled with the gain twist and the dovetailed front sight made for an accurate combination as evidenced by the target in my photo.