Research Shows Humans Crave Violence

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Humans Crave Violence Just Like Sex
Jeanna Bryner
LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Jan 17, 2008

New research on mice shows the brain processes aggressive behavior as it does other rewards. Mice sought violence, in fact, picking fights for no apparent reason other than the rewarding feeling.

The mouse brain is thought to be analogous to the human brain in this study, which could shed light on our fascination with brutal sports as well as our own penchant for the classic bar brawl.

In fact, the researcher say, humans seem to crave violence just like they do sex, food or drugs.

Love to fight

Scientists have known that mice and other animals are drawn to fights. Until now, they didn't know how the brain was involved.

The new study, detailed online this week in the journal Psychopharmacology, reveals the same clusters of brain cells involved in other rewards are also behind the craving for violence.

"Aggression occurs among virtually all vertebrates and is necessary to get and keep important resources such as mates, territory and food," said study team member Craig Kennedy, professor of special education and pediatrics at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee. "We have found that the reward pathway in the brain becomes engaged in response to an aggressive event and that dopamine is involved."

Mouse brawl

For the experiments, the researchers placed a pair of mice, one male and one female, in a cage. Then, the female was removed and a so-called male intruder mouse entered the cage. That triggered aggressive behavior in the resident male. The tell-tale signs of aggression included tail rattle, an aggressive sideways stance, boxing and biting.

After the initial scuffle ended, the resident male mouse was trained to nose-poke a target to get the intruder to return. Results showed the home mouse consistently poked the target and fought with the introduced mouse, indicating, the researchers say, that the aggressive encounter was seen as a reward.

"We learned from these experiments that an individual will intentionally seek out an aggressive encounter solely because they experience a rewarding sensation from it," Kennedy said.

To figure out whether the brain's reward pathway was involved, the scientists treated the home mice with a drug to block dopamine in certain parts of the brain known to be involved in rewards like food and drugs.

The treated mice were less likely to instigate the intruder's entry. “This shows for the first time that aggression, on its own, is motivating, and that the well-known positive reinforcer dopamine plays a critical role," Kennedy said.

Human violence

Kennedy explained that the experiments have implications for humans. The reward pathway in the brains of humans and mice are very similar, he said.

"Aggression is highly conserved in vertebrates in general and particularly in mammals," Kennedy told LiveScience. "Almost all mammals are aggressive in some way or another."
He added, "It serves a really useful evolutionary role probably, which is you defend territory; you defend your mate; if you're a female, you defend your offspring."

Even though it served a purpose for other animals, in modern human societies, Kennedy said, a propensity toward aggression is not beneficial and can be a problem.
 
Even though it served a purpose for other animals, in modern human societies, Kennedy said, a propensity toward aggression is not beneficial and can be a problem.

See, I think what we should do is infuse the air with a substance that will make people much more complacent. That way everyone would be peaceful all the time, and we'd have a plot for a great sci-fi movie. :p
 
See, I think what we should do is infuse the air with a substance that will make people much more complacent.

I heard thaty they tried that back in the 60s and 70s. The top secret substance consisted of incense and marijuana.
 
Whats wrong with violence? It helps keep the world from being overpopulated.
 
i think that the resident mouse was fighting with the intruder mouse because resident mouses mate was taken at the same time that the intruder mouse entered, resident mouse was fighting intruder mouse because he saw intruder mouse as the reason his mate was gone, so he was trying to get her back.
 
Some fem types like to equate sex with violence. Who knew?

Personally, I think that the description "violence" is a little too narrow to categorize what's going on.
 
I'd like to see lots more research.

I get up in the morning and crave a latte' and the newspaper.

Now granted, I get pretty owly if we're out of coffee or the newspaper is in a snow drift. My first reaction is to go look for the truck keys, not a set of brass knuckles.

The flaw in the argument is that there are many associations of rough tough guys who have prospered over decades. Why have they not destroyed themselves?
 
Some scientist got what is likely to be millions of tax dollars to prove something most people instinctively already know...

And that the bleeding heart libs, sheep and pasivists will vehemently deny while violence in the form of wars, criminal activity, sports, video games etc rages all around them.

For an activity so many profess to abhor there sure doesn't seem to be a lack of it in human society.
 
They're drawing an unfair conclusion.

Violence releases chemicals afterwards that make you feel good. Just like coming off of an adrenaline high. So you can associate good feelings with violence.

The mice however, are not attacking for reward. They're attacking to defend their territory. It's like having guys repeatedly break into your house and then criticizing someone because they fought the guy every time.

And yes, with an animal, if you repeatedly have it do something, and every time it does it you reward it, when it wants the reward it will do the action.

Thats why bank robbers keep robbing banks, violent offenders are repeat offenders, etc. They're not doing it because their body is saying to do it, they're doing it because after they do it, they've received a "reward" for doing it.

And there is nothing wrong with aggression. Man is both the smartest and stupidest animal there is. Denying feelings of violence, anger, etc, is fighting how you're supposed to feel. That's how we end up a generation of men who can't shoot, hunt, fight, or express themselves. Men need to be men. Don't fight your bodies desires (unless they're telling you to rape and rob, then you should sit down and perhaps consider help).

But there is nothing wrong with liking to shoot and hit things and swing baseball bats. I shoot regularly, practice Mixed Martial Arts, and enjoy violent video games. And I've never hurt someone who didn't deserve it and I dont walk around craving fights.
 
I think that the resident mouse was fighting with the intruder mouse because...

Yes/probably/maybe/who knows?

The fighting wasn't the interesting part.

The interesting part is that they put the female back and gave the mouse a "gimmi someone to fight" button... and the mouse went for the button.

Interesting study. The only outright mistake I could see was in the unsupported opinion presented at the end (that an aggression/reward response is not beneficial in humans).
 
If humans weren't wired up to fight, just like every other creature, the last human would have been a meal for something more aggressive thousands of years ago.
 
What pi$$es me off is, studies like this inane piece of crap and referred to as "research", is often funded by our tax dollars. But on a lighter note, anyone who would as soon fight as to enjoy sex and food is some kind of idiot!!:p
 
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He added, "It serves a really useful evolutionary role probably, which is you defend territory; you defend your mate; if you're a female, you defend your offspring."

Even though it served a purpose for other animals, in modern human societies, Kennedy said, a propensity toward aggression is not beneficial and can be a problem.

So defending your home and offspring is "not beneficial and can be a problem." That's a very scary thought. Why I never trust the psychs.
 
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