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Discussion in 'Activism' started by hso, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. Billy Shears

    Billy Shears Member

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    Tom Harkin is one of those idiots whose ability to get reelected gives me a low opinion of the electorate. He's exactly the sort of politician who ought to be run out of town on a rail, not elected to high office. He just went on record saying we don't have a spending problem. Our economy is stalling, our credit's been downgraded, and looks to be again, and we borrow nearly half of every dollar we spend. But we don't have a spending problem.

    His stance on guns is no different and no better. He's ignorant on the subject, and seems neither interested in or even capable of being educated about them. He's too doctrinaire. Like Feinstein, Schumer, Boxer, Lautenberg, and a few others, he's a lost cause. There's no question you can ask him that will make a difference, nor anything you can say. His mind's made up and no one here is going to change it. He'll support the most draconian anti-gun legislation that comes up for a vote. It strikes me as wiser to focus time, effort and money elsewhere, where it might have some effect.
     
  2. baz

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    Another Razorback here. I guess I think it would be the other way around with Pryor. He knows he has a tough fight ahead for reelection, and that he has to be seen as pro 2nd Amendment to get reelected. Or, at least cannot be seen as blatantly anti. I think that works for us in the short run, but it is also why he needs to be replaced in 2014. We need someone who will stand up for the 2nd Amendment as a matter of principle, and not just to keep getting elected. I don't trust Pryor at all. He's a follower in the Senate. In the near term, he will be torn between wanting to do what the Democratic leadership wants him to do, and his knowledge that he doesn't stand a chance of getting reelected if he supports an AWB or mag cap limits. My fear is that, like some Republicans, he would go along with UBC and claim that his opposition to AWB and mag cap limits demonstrates his 2nd Amendment bona fides. We need to keep the pressure on him. And then vote him out in 2014, like we did Lincoln in 2010.
     
  3. theriflespeaks1863

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    I wrote and called my Rep., Mr. Reid Ribble, a couple weeks ago.

    Here's what I got:

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    Whish he would've come out a little stronger, but at least he seems to be on the right page. Other WI members should write and let him know he needs to take a firmer stance!

    -Chris
     
  4. Ryanxia

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    Definitely has to go. What part of Maine is he a representative of?
     
  5. ZeSpectre

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    From: "U.S. Senator Kaine" <senator@kaine.senate.gov>
    Sent: Fri Feb 15 18:25:36 EST 2013
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    Subject: Reply from Senator Kaine

    Letterhead
    February 15, 2013



    Dear Mr. XXXXXXX:

    Thank you for contacting me to share your views on proposals to reduce gun violence. I appreciate hearing from you.

    No one can deny that gun violence is a serious problem in this country today. We owe it to the victims of the growing number of mass shootings to vigorously debate specific and comprehensive proposals that can keep our communities safer. The right approach focuses on many issues - improvements to the mental health system, better security protocols and common sense rules about gun use, including keeping firearms out of the hands of dangerous individuals.

    When I was on the Richmond City Council in the 1990s, our city was mired in an epidemic of gun violence that included the city having the second-highest homicide rate in the United States. The most successful step we took was implementing Project Exile, a program that involved federal prosecution and tougher penalties for gun crimes that were previously treated more leniently in state courts. Celebrated by diverse groups engaged in the gun violence debate - including the National Rifle Association and the Brady Campaign - the program helped drive down Richmond's homicide rate by nearly 60 percent within a few years.

    In 2007, the tragic shooting at Virginia Tech revealed glaring weaknesses in campus security protocols at colleges and universities, in our mental health system and the gun background check system for gun purchases. In a bipartisan spirit, I worked with then-Attorney General Bob McDonnell to immediately improve our background check system and issued an executive order ensuring that those adjudicated to be mentally ill and dangerous would be entered into a national database and barred from purchasing weapons. We also changed standards for mental health treatment and increased funding for community health programs while dramatically improving campus security and efforts to assist college students suffering from mental stress.

    In January I attended a round-table event in Richmond with Vice President Biden on gun violence, to talk about the lessons learned in Virginia and the need for a comprehensive approach to these problems. As your U.S. Senator, I will work to bring that kind of comprehensive approach that will strengthen the safety of our communities, while protecting our Second Amendment rights. As a gun owner who worked with others to constitutionally guarantee Virginians the right to hunt, I know that you can be a strong supporter of the Second Amendment without tolerating the gun tragedies that are too often a part of our daily lives.

    Concerning specific proposals, I am a strong supporter of universal background record checks. This is the only way we can enforce existing laws that prohibit dangerous individuals from purchasing guns. I am open to supporting legislation placing reasonable limits on high capacity magazines, combat-style weapons and gun trafficking if they are carefully drafted.

    Please be assured that I will keep your views in mind as Congress continues to debate strategies to reduce gun violence. Thank you once again for contacting me.

    Sincerely,

    Signature

    Tim Kaine
    ==================================================

    As you can see, Kaine was a lost cause when he was our governor and things haven't improved at all. Still, I keep hammering him with emails.
     
  6. TenDriver

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    Response From Sen. Sessions

    Attachment removed, rotated, and posted below.

    If this is not readable, please delete. The response is favorable and leaves little room for interpretation.
     
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  7. Derek Zeanah

    Derek Zeanah System Administrator Staff Member

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    OK, that's just painful. Rotated here:

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  8. TenDriver

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    Sorry about that. Didn't realize it was sideways. iPhone fun.
     
  9. alsaqr

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    Sessions is a good friend of gun owners.
     
  10. bigfatdave

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    RE: email response from Feinstein
    Maybe the problem is DiFi? Makes as much sense as any of HER theories.
     
  11. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

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    Let's stay focused on the letters and what use we can put them to instead of ranting about DiFi or other politicians. Identify the enemy and leave the comments out of it.
     
  12. avs11054

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    Response I received from Sen. Jeff Flake from AZ

     
  13. allaroundhunter

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    From Senator John Cornyn

    After writing to Senator Cornyn, I received this response:

    If anyone is concerned about him, I hope this sets fears to rest. He is on our side, and he has proved it in recent 2A issues.
     
  14. Sergei Mosin

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    Senator Johanns of Nebraska is on our side, but he is retiring from the Senate after the 2014 elections. The early favorite to replace him is Governor Heineman, who is also pro-2A.
     
  15. Green Lantern

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    Ugh...nobody can say so little using so many words like Kay Hagan. I've been hitting Popvox hard of late, so I can't honestly say what this is in regards to, and she does not give many clues either....

    Form replies are bad enough, at least they could make ones based on actual ISSUES....
     
  16. Duhshooter

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    Senator Warner (D) Virginia

    While the Senator says he supports the 2nd amendment, as others here have pointed out, he is for increased restrictions on gun ownership. In my opinion, Warner only says he supports the 2nd amendment because it is politically necessary for his campaign. If you check his voting record, he has voted almost straight Obama doctrine, Obamacare, etc. He bills himself as a moderate, but don't believe it.

    I have had personal contact with this man on several occasions and my own opinion is, I will definitely vote against him.
     
  17. NosaMSirhC

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    ANYONE that thinks Mark Warner is Pro 2A needs a check up from the neck up....

    Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
     
  18. barnbwt

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    Here is my mini-essay to John Cornyn. Normally I try to keep them to a couple sentences, but the Background Check issue really demands more detail because it seems "reasonable" superficially. My arguments are 1. NICS cost 2. Punishment of prohibited persons pinging NICS for firearms sales 3. The risk posed by databases of personal info, and the new legal landmine facing gunowners. In bold is probably the most important portion of the letter--something Cornyn is hopefully smacking his more unprincipled republicans over the head with already.



    TCB
     
  19. chemist308

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    House Rep Matt Cartwright - PA District 17

    I received an email response from House Rep Matt Cartwright. Based on my read, I do believe he is in need of our loving support to steer him back to right path and ensure we are represented. Could you help here? His contact info is found here:
    https://cartwright.house.gov/contact/email-me

    Dear Mr. ********,

    Thank you for taking the time to write to me with your thoughts on gun safety and your support for the Second Amendment. I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue and I'm glad to have the opportunity to respond.

    As a Congressman I took an oath to uphold the Constitution, and as a former trial attorney I have the deepest respect for our nation's laws. The tragic shootings in Connecticut, Oregon, Wisconsin, and Colorado have thrust gun safety into the spotlight and I recognize that this is a sensitive issue fraught with emotion.

    Our country has a long and proud tradition of gun ownership and having owned guns myself I recognize the important role they play in our history and in the lives of many Americans today. I respect the rights of hunters and those who use guns for recreational purposes as I too enjoy shooting. I also recognize the need for individuals to protect their homes and their families. I do not seek to punish the many responsible and law-abiding gun owners but rather seek to find a balanced approach during this discussion on gun safety. We must protect our Second Amendment rights while keeping our children safe.

    I was recently appointed to the Gun Violence Task Force and will work towards solutions to prevent future tragedies, including ensuring sufficient access to mental health services. I will approach this assignment with an open mind, and am looking for input from all sides of the issue. I will certainly keep your thoughts in mind as we continue this debate.



    If you would like to stay connected to our office with the latest news, legislation, and other useful information, please sign-up up for my e-newsletter or visit my website. Thank you again for reaching out, and please do not hesitate to contact my office with any future questions or comments.
    Sincerely,
    (signed)
    Matt Cartwright
    Member of Congress
    MC/SB
     
  20. DeadMoneyDrew

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    Delaware Congresscritters: Tom Carper so-so, John Carney a no-go

    I got back the forum letter gun responses from Senator Tom Carper (D-DE) and Rep. John Carney (D- DE at-large). Carper's response isn't too bad. Carney's is LOLterribad. That's not unexpected since Tom Carper seems to vote his mind while John Carney tends to do whatever he is told.

    Here's the reply from Tom Carper:

     
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  21. DeadMoneyDrew

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    Here's the standard party-line-toeing response from Carney:

     
  22. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

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    Dick Durbin

    Received from Tricky Dick's office.

    Emphasis added where applicable.


    February 25, 2013

    Mr. XXXXXXXXX
    XXXXXXX
    XXXXXXX

    Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXXXX:

    Thank you for contacting me about gun violence prevention. I appreciate hearing from you.

    Americans are entitled to own and use guns responsibly. The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution guarantees this right. In 2008, in the case of District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court struck down the District’s handgun ban and affirmed Second Amendment rights. However, the Court also noted in its decision that Second Amendment rights are subject to reasonable limitations.

    Within this context, we must work to pursue policies and enforce existing laws to protect Americans from becoming victims of gun violence. Strong penalties for violent crimes involving firearms should be part of any effort to reduce gun violence. I have consistently supported tough crime control and prevention initiatives since coming to Congress.

    I support efforts that address illegal possession and use of firearms. Common sense restrictions such as bans on multi-round magazines and assault weapons are supported by law enforcement officials who patrol our streets. I also support universal background checks to prevent the transfer of firearms without a background check by non-licensed gun sellers.

    We must institute common-sense limits, such as barring those with a history of mental instability, those with a history of violent crime or who are subject to restraining orders, and those whose names have been placed on a terrorist watch list from owning weapons. Straw purchasers and gun dealers should face firm penalties. There should be limits on how many firearms may be purchased in one month. Those who own firearms that are within the reach of children should have protective locks on their weapons.

    Although we may disagree on this issue, I will keep your thoughts in mind as the Senate considers gun violence prevention measures. I will continue to uphold the right to bear arms and do not seek to diminish the ability of Americans to do so. We must strike a balance between protecting our constitutional rights and preventing senseless acts of violence that have led to the loss of countless lives in Illinois and across America.

    Thank you again for contacting me. Please feel free to stay in touch.

    Sincerely,
    Richard J. Durbin
    United States Senator

    RJD/bc
     
  23. sota

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    ever thought of inviting him to your house? you could lock him in your basement for like 10 seconds. the guy would die of fright/heart attack. problem solved? :D
     
  24. Trent

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    What I sent back. I copied a LOT of the legislators on this, as well as my local rep, and the NRA-ILA.



    Mr. Durbin;

    As a father of 5 wonderful children, and a successful business owner in Illinois, I enjoy the opportunities this country and State provide for raising our families.

    But your politics trouble me deeply, Mr. Durbin.

    I grew up poor. After my father shot himself, my mother joined up with a man who became quite an abusive step-father – I bear the scars to show for it two and a half decades later. The five of us (including siblings) lived in a one room basement house, off of welfare, and whatever money my mother and step father raised selling cocaine. By the time I was 14 I moved out and lived with my grandparents. The psychological scars of my youth were hard to bear, and I dropped out of high school at age 18.

    That fall I found out I was going to be a father, and took my GED test, passing. With a loan of $100 from my grandfather, I took an ad out in the local paper and started a small computer repair company. Which grew in to a larger software development operation. 17 years later, I now have several employees, customers all across North America, which including a prestigious list of fortune 100 and 500 companies. I am a very successful employer, a very successful entrepreneur, and pay (more than) my fair share of taxes.

    I relay my successes in life, against all odds, not to invoke some sort of emotional response. I relay these facts of my past to illustrate that I have earned – unequivocally – the right to speak my mind as a person who is not adverse to struggles and hardship. I have lived through the very worst that life could throw at me, and I have flourished.

    And I will say one thing, very clearly, so that you can understand it.

    I do not now, and will not ever, tolerate tyranny, in whatever form it takes, Mr. Durbin.

    Your politics may fly in Chicago, where you congregate with your corrupt peers and have shared black-tie dinners with past Governors who are currently residing in prison, but these politics are quite unwelcome in downstate Illinois.

    I have a right to raise my 5 wonderful children with the same values and heritage that was passed down to me from my grandfather. HIS values are what I carry forward in life. He raised me out of the ashes of my youth, he corrected the flaws in me. He instilled respect for my elders, he taught me the value of a dollar, he taught me my ethics and morality, that hard work pays off, and goodness to strangers and neighbors is rewarded with bonds of friendship and brotherhood.

    My grandfather is in his 80’s now, and does not have the strength or endurance or youth to carry on a struggle against our Government. But I sure as hell do. And I have the means, economically and logistically, to struggle against your particular brand of political oppression.

    I would strongly advise you to review your policies and correctly adjust and adapt those views to reflect your constituents – there are millions of gun owners in the State of Illinois you are up against on this issue.

    Or… you just might find yourself running against someone who is very eager (and very well-funded) to displace your corrupt, oppressive views next time you are up for election.

    Have a wonderful day, sir.

    Trenton xxxxxxxxxx
    Federally Licensed Collector of Curio and Relics of War
     
  25. ATBackPackin

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    The part that upsets me the most about politicians like that is how they go on about "How they support the 2[sup]nd[/sup] Amendment". They do not have to agree with me, but how can you respect anyone who is that blatantly dishonest?

    Disgusting!
     

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