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Discussion in 'Activism' started by hso, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

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    Another great 2A video for our talking points: Constitutional Scholar on PBS

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown...understood-by-a-second-amendment-scholar.html

    This is a great example of a constitutional scholar explaining the constitutional context for why an AWB can not work. Better yet it is on a respected PBS program and is very honestly handled.

    We can take each of these points and incorporate them into our letters and discussions on the 2A/AWB.
     
  2. SabbathWolf

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    how do I watch it?
     
  3. docnyt

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    Wow great find there hso. This is the most rational RKBA discussion I've seen. It helps that the host's demeanor was calm and neutral.
     
  4. SabbathWolf

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    I can't find the actual video. How do I watch it? What do I click on?
     
  5. beatledog7

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    Their politics are usually pretty nearly opposite mine, but there is one thing I have always liked about PBS "anchors," whether on radio or TV; they don't scream at their audience.

    This interviewer and guest are a shining example of how a dialog should be undertaken. The guest is dead on in her analysis, and the host doesn't berate her. Brilliant work from both.
     
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    Great video, thanks for sharing!
     
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  8. SabbathWolf

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    LOL...

    Thank you. I guess I'm not that smart either sometimes.
     
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    dang i missed it, but the Newshour on PBS is the only (other than local news) news i watch on TV.
     
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    My friend Kevin posted a thread below but I thought I'd leave a link in the sticky thread as well. BillTrack50.com makes it easy to search legislation across all 50 states.
     
  11. SabbathWolf

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    I'm not sure I liked how she called the National Guard the Militia?
     
  12. Downeast

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    I couldn't watch it on the link provided but found the same video on youtube and was able to watch it, it's good stuff.
     
  13. Twmaster

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    That was a surprisingly level headed discussion considering the program.

    Thanks for the link.
     
  14. Arbo

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    great find.
     
  15. Furncliff

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    Thanks OP.
     
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    Great video. Obama might be thinking twice about that funding to PBS now, though...
     
  17. hso

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    The Lee Amendment vote tells us who our friends are in the Senate (even thought it didn't pass by one vote).
    http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00087

    YEAs ---50
    Alexander (R-TN)
    Ayotte (R-NH)
    Barrasso (R-WY)
    Baucus (D-MT)
    Blunt (R-MO)
    Boozman (R-AR)
    Burr (R-NC)
    Chambliss (R-GA)
    Coats (R-IN)
    Coburn (R-OK)
    Cochran (R-MS)
    Collins (R-ME)
    Corker (R-TN)
    Cornyn (R-TX)
    Crapo (R-ID)
    Cruz (R-TX)
    Donnelly (D-IN)
    Enzi (R-WY)
    Fischer (R-NE)
    Flake (R-AZ)
    Graham (R-SC)
    Grassley (R-IA)
    Hagan (D-NC)
    Hatch (R-UT)
    Heitkamp (D-ND)
    Heller (R-NV)
    Hoeven (R-ND)
    Inhofe (R-OK)
    Isakson (R-GA)
    Johanns (R-NE)
    Johnson (R-WI)
    Lee (R-UT)
    Manchin (D-WV)
    McCain (R-AZ)
    McConnell (R-KY)
    Moran (R-KS)
    Murkowski (R-AK)
    Paul (R-KY)
    Portman (R-OH)
    Pryor (D-AR)
    Risch (R-ID)
    Roberts (R-KS)
    Rubio (R-FL)
    Scott (R-SC)
    Sessions (R-AL)
    Shelby (R-AL)
    Thune (R-SD)
    Toomey (R-PA)
    Vitter (R-LA)
    Wicker (R-MS)

    NAYs ---49
    Baldwin (D-WI)
    Begich (D-AK)
    Bennet (D-CO)
    Blumenthal (D-CT)
    Boxer (D-CA)
    Brown (D-OH)
    Cantwell (D-WA)
    Cardin (D-MD)
    Carper (D-DE)
    Casey (D-PA)
    Coons (D-DE)
    Cowan (D-MA)
    Durbin (D-IL)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Franken (D-MN)
    Gillibrand (D-NY)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Heinrich (D-NM)
    Hirono (D-HI)
    Johnson (D-SD)
    Kaine (D-VA)
    King (I-ME)
    Kirk (R-IL)
    Klobuchar (D-MN)
    Landrieu (D-LA)
    Leahy (D-VT)
    Levin (D-MI)
    McCaskill (D-MO)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Merkley (D-OR)
    Mikulski (D-MD)
    Murphy (D-CT)
    Murray (D-WA)
    Nelson (D-FL)
    Reed (D-RI)
    Reid (D-NV)
    Rockefeller (D-WV)
    Sanders (I-VT)
    Schatz (D-HI)
    Schumer (D-NY)
    Shaheen (D-NH)
    Stabenow (D-MI)
    Tester (D-MT)
    Udall (D-CO)
    Udall (D-NM)
    Warner (D-VA)
    Warren (D-MA)
    Whitehouse (D-RI)
    Wyden (D-OR)
     
  18. theshephard

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    Inaccuracies..?

    I know this is old news, but since it hasn't been mentioned I think I should point it out:

    I believe this recounting of the NRA's history is inaccurate as told in this video.

    I'd really, sincerely appreciate someone correcting me on this. My understanding is that the NRA was started earlier than the instances cited, specifically by two union soldiers upset at the lack of Northern aptitude at reconciling POA & POI.

    It's true that some local chapters were organized for the reason he states and that the national organization chartered those local organizations, but the NRA as a national organization wasn't started for these reasons, AFAIK.

    The NRA can and should rightly take credit for their involvement in helping freed slaves defend themselves from the KKK, but it's important to qualify this video up front with an acknowledgement that the history isn't quite accurate. Being honest and upfront about this avoids putting us in the position of losing credibility for promoting something that isn't historically accurate and thus distracting from the truly valuable substance of what's discussed.

    Again, I'd really like it if someone more knowledgeable on this would correct me. Don't hate - just posting this in the spirit of helping improve our strength of representation and argument.
     
  19. kwguy

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    It's not the NRA making that statement, but those individuals.

    It may be a case of them talking about the NRA from their particular perspective and context (local chapters, being chartered by the national organization) and not simply being concerned about when the 'national organization' actually formed.

    Either way, that's a powerful statement, and since it flies in the face of the MSM, and reinforces the NRA as a positive organization, it'll never make 'prime time'. But I hope more people see it.
     
  20. Prophet

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    theshepard, I've been doing a lot of research on this lately. Here's something I came across that may or may not be of value to the conversation. It concerns the rifle club that was created by civil rights activist Robert Franklin Williams and chartered by the NRA.

    http://docsouth.unc.edu/sohp/K-0266/excerpts/excerpt_8789.html

    I'd love to read the letter Robert Franklin Williams sent to the NRA.
     
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    Senator King - add him to the list

    theautobahn mentioned King sent out an e-mail and I just checked and sure enough this is what he wrote.


    My brief response.
     
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    I thought #5 was already a federal crime.
     

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