Return of the Original Steyr AUG?!?!

[Samurai FI]

I was browsing firearms websites and noticed Steyr mentions new AUG COMING SOON! http://www.steyrarms.com/ I assume it's for civilians and not just LE. Has anybody heard anything about this?


I know msar and tpd recently came out with AUG clones. I guess Steyr wants some of their business back.

 

[PercyShelley]

Yes, I saw! There's a great long bit about it at ARFCOM, as you might reasonably expect.

It will indeed be interesting to see what comes of TPD and MSAR after this.

 

[Ivy Mike]

does the AUG use proprietary magazines?

 

[El Tejon]

It uses AUG magazines. Is that what you mean?

 

[Jason M]

If by "proprietary" you mean "non-AR", then yes, I do believe they are proprietary.

 

[wally]

What I don't get is why the MSAR doesn't use AUG mags or AR mags, but its own "almost AUG" mags.

Supposedly MSAR is coming out with a version that uses AR mags. this I'd jump on.

--wally.

 

[TexasRifleman]

I don't understand why everyone expects any new firearm chambered in .223/5.56 to use AR magazines........

And now we are calling any magazine that is NOT an AR mag proprietary?


I think Glocks should be converted to use the more common 1911 magazine instead of those proprietary things.......

 

[plexreticle]

I feel it is a good selling point if a rifle uses AR mags.

 

[TexasRifleman]

I feel it is a good selling point if a rifle uses AR mags.

Sure it is, but to say that any other mag design is "proprietary" is just silly.

 

[Yo Mama]

Went from a post on a cool rifle, to mag talk.

I'd love one.

 

[TexasRifleman]

Went from a post on a cool rifle, to mag talk.

I'd love one.

Well if we want to talk about the rifle then frankly I'd rather buy one from MSAR.

Steyr abandoned the US market. MSAR invested boatloads of their own money to bring back a popular design and they should be rewarded for that.

If I buy one it will be MSAR. Steyr is only coming back out of greed (if it actually happens, which is still iffy).

Also this is a licensed build of the AUG, not necessarily going to be built by the "original" company. This is a company selling a licensed AUG made in Alabama, Steyr Arms, Inc. The original AUG was made by Steyr Mannlicher GmbH and imported from Austria.

It's a holding company that belongs to SM but it's never going to be a "real" AUG again.

 

[marktx]

Any info on the price yet?

 

[TexasRifleman]

Any info on the price yet?

No one has mentioned that yet. There are a couple of WAGs on arfcom saying $1900 but who knows.

They are saying that they should be out in January with that odd A2/A3 combination on their website.

The guys on arfcom are saying the company plans to make some pricing and availability announcements in the next couple of weeks.

The other rumor, and again only a rumor, is that Steyr USA is going to pull an FN ala dealer packages so only high volume dealers will be able to get them, and the prices will likely be above MSRP for a while like the PS90 was at first. If that's true then "regular" FFLs probably wouldn't be able to get them until mid '09 or later, following along with how the PS90 went.

Here's what they have on their website:

For those worked up over the magazine thing, the TPD AXR clone of the AUG will use AR mags. In fact it ships with Magpul PMAGs. (if it ever ships in quantity)

 

[Wedge]

The Steyr AUG...because hearing is overrated.

I would still like one, but that is WAY too much coin for me.

 

[PercyShelley]

With the 24'' barrel the AUG probably isn't any worse than any other 5.56 rifle.

 

[W.E.G.]

I hope they have at least improved the trigger.

I've shot $15 air rifles that have better triggers than the "ugh" trigger on the AUG.

Too bad they have a "proprietary" trigger in the AUG, otherwise I could drop-in one those sweet AR-15 Giesselle triggers...

 

[wally]

I think Glocks should be converted to use the more common 1911 magazine instead of those proprietary things.......

Actually going the other way would make more sense, if you've priced Glock mags vs. a name brand 1911 mag.

Mags are the weak link, commonality would be a good thing, in fact I'd be very happy if every .308 used FAL mags and every .223 used AR mags.

I don't see gearing up for wide availability in late 2009 as a smart business plan right now. Using a readily available mag insures your product won't be the next Bren-Ten.

CDNN has AUG mags on sale now, so I was ready to get an MSAR until I learned it won't take AUG mags

Been told AUG mags can be modified to work, but during the ban modifying M14 mags for the AR-10 was not so effective.

To me the cost of the gun and 7 mags is what I consider as to if I can afford it or not. If the mags are common, I feel safe deferring the mag purchases and waiting for sales.

--wally.

 

[Tyris]

AUG / STG-556 mags are about a million times better than the typical folded sheet aluminum AR15 mag.

I avoided the TPD AXR because of the AR mag. That mag is perhaps the weakest link in the AR platform, well, that and the direct gas impingement.

Good to see the AUG back on the US market. Too bad I already bought an STG556.
I wonder how the fit and finish will compare, the old AUGs were painted aluminum receivers, the STGs are incredibly high quality cut and finish.

-T

 

[xx7grant7x]

i have seen conversion lowers for Steyr AUG's that allow them to accept ar-15 mags can't remember manufacturer though...

 

[NetJunkie]

I don't understand why everyone expects any new firearm chambered in .223/5.56 to use AR magazines........

A lot of us have an investment in AR mags and would like to use them. I hate to pay $2K for a rifle and then another $500 on mags when it could use the ones I already have.

 

[Evil Monkey]

That mag is perhaps the weakest link in the AR platform

Then buy polymer.

Personally, I've made it standard that if a 223 rifle doesn't use STANAG 4179 mags, it will not be considered for purchase.

Oh, and since ar15 mags are standardized, everything else is proprietary, including steyr/msar mags.

BTW, why does msar mags cost $35 and Pmags cost $15?

Both are polymer mags. But I think the msar steyr mag is strengthened with unicorn crap right? This is why some people hate proprietary accessories. They're unnecessarily expensive because the maker is the only one on the block making a said item.

 

[Tyris]

BTW, why does msar mags cost $35 and Pmags cost $15?

Probably the size of the purchase orders from whoever is making them. Also the MSAR is transparent, the pmags, not so much. I rather like the transparent mags.

Since I dont own any AR15 style guns, I've never been hung up on their mags.

Galils use their own mags, AKs use their own mags, HKs (new and old)use their own mags, M1As use their own mags, Mini14s use their own mags, FALs use their own mags. All handguns use their own mags. I've never seen gun specific mags as much of a problem, else I'd probably have a safe full of the same kind of gun.

-T

 

[mp510]

i have seen conversion lowers for Steyr AUG's that allow them to accept ar-15 mags can't remember manufacturer though...

CDNN is selling those right now. They are advertising them as overrun from when the Austrian military rifles were converted to use STANAG mags.

 

[Gunnerpalace]

Steyr abandoned the US market

Only because the feds wanted to ban the AUG, they pulled out not wanting that to happen, Heller made the news so AUG is going for it.

I like the AUG, the only reason I don't want an MSAR is it has a forward (or rear)assist.
The Steyr does not have one therefore I will pick the Steyr.

 

[Click Click Boom]

TPD AXR for me. Its a true Steyr Copy with a "better" reciever and a Steyr nato stock.

You can buy it now.