RIA 10MM- a brief review

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I'd been stricken with the 10mm bug as of late. I was torn between a 1911 or the new XDM. My LGS had the RIA 1911A1 FS-TAC II on the shelf for $650. I thought I could do better in price and then came Black Friday and a 10% discount. So after asking permission from my better half (on the phone- it always seems to have the best results) I walked out of the store with this:
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$585 OTD. It worked for me. I'll admit that in buying a new gun price was an important factor. I couldn't find a XDM in 10MM anywhere to compare to, and the new Ruger 1911 was out of immediate reach. But I don't think I settled. I got what I paid for and more, I believe, and I am happy.
I took it home and opened the box. The gun is all steel and heavy. There are 2 magazines, one stainless and one black steel.
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The stainless mag is marked 10MM, the black mag has no markings on it. The black mag is about worthless but more on that later. Both have bumper pads and slide in and eject with ease. The beveled mag well really makes loading without watching what I am doing a breeze.
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When inserted and the slide locked back I noticed that it is really difficult to release the slide, I mean 2 thumbs on the slide release. Or, alternatively, pulling the slide back and listening for and feeling for an audible click then releasing the slide release to get the slide to travel forward. The slide release edges are sharp so at the end of the day the thumbs were feeling a bit raw. I had some fear that this was going to be a problem on the range but as it turned out, no problem at all. Same with the ambidextrous safety. It is large and the edges are sharp. But easily manipulated with my thumb and has a very positive and audible click.
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The sights are rear white dot and front fiber optic sights. The rear sight is a Novak style adjustable for lateral and elevation. They are easily acquired even with my tired eyes and glasses.
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Finally, the gun has a parkerized finish, not really attractive but very utilitarian. Just from the brief time I have owned and fired it (and being a display model) the finish does show abrasions from handling. I'll learn to live with that. Fitment seems to be really nice. No wiggle when the gun is shook. Between the grips which I believe are micarta and the serrations on the front and rear of the grip frame my grip is very positive.
Finally, the gun has a bull barrel in lieu of a barrel bushing, and a one piece steel guide rod. RIA also says it has a fully supported barrel chamber. The main spring feels a lot stronger than a 20 lb. spring which I believe is what it is.
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Finally range day arrived. I took along a box of Armscor 180 gr. plated bullets. The gun ran flawlessly other than the black magazine which would not stay seated. It would drop about 1/2 inch after a round was fired, thus the next round would not load. No problem with the stainless magazine. It functioned perfectly. Also, putting the slide into battery with a loaded magazine worked as it should.
Ejected brass was about 10 feet over my right shoulder in an array about 5 feet in diameter. No FTF not related to the magazine and no FTE. At 7 yds my first shot was a bullseye and the next shot touching. The pattern spread out a bit but I could go back into the bull fairly often. I am not the best pistol shooter and I am learning to shoot with prescription glasses. Learning how high to raise my head over the sights and where to look through my bifocal glasses to find the crispest sight picture, which there seems to be none. Anyhow that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
And as a bonus I just happen to have a DeSantis hip holster which I have no real idea where I got it. But it fits perfectly.
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I got this gun to carry as a hiking companion in place of my Redhawk .45. Hand-in-hand it does feel considerably lighter. I reload and will be researching stouter loads than standard 10MM commercial ammo available.
Finally, I contacted RIA customer service about the black magazine and got a reply back that said they will see what they can do. I am hoping for they will send me a stainless magazine. Just have to wait and see. If not, I guess I will be looking for a Wilson Combat mag or possibly a Kimber. If anyone has any experience using alternative magazines (and if you have a RIA 10mm all the better) please give your advice or experiences.
No, I don't think I settled. I believe I got one heckofa nice gun
 
Very nice. I got my RIA Tac 10mm years ago for a bit more (and mine only had 1 mag, WTheck :))

It's not my nicest 1911, nor the smoothest trigger on one. But with my XTP 200 grain hand loads it is consistently my most accurate.

Runs fine with my Wilson .45 ACP mags too.
 
Many folks never use the slide lock catch as a release lever. I am one of them. I always rack the slide with my support hand. On your gun you don’t have to listen for a click when racking the slide. Just pull the slide fully to the rear and completely release it. Works every time.
 
I have the same model RIA 10mm. I've had great luck with Tripp Research 9-round magazine.
I load my own and love taking my reloads, 145gr PC SWC over 10.5gr of PP, to the range. It's a load that cuts laser holes in paper and barks with authority. It is indeed "blasty".
It's a reliable and very accurate handgun. Unfortunately, when firing the hotter loads such as from Underwood, Buffalo Bore or some of my reloads (like the one above), the slide will occasionally lock open on a charged magazine. It's perfectly reliable with the milder stuff, such as most commercial 10mm.
I'm currently working on finding a remedy.
 
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I'd been stricken with the 10mm bug as of late.

Thanks a lot NB! (For nuthin')

I was just to the point where I thought my Glock 20 was enough when I had a LGS mention
the RIA last week and how happy several customers were with it at it's price point.
Was able to keep temptation away, but after your very nice write-up and photos...

JT
 
I really want to see a fired case, and a barrel removed from the gun with a case in it. A lot of 10mm 1911s don’t properly support the chamber. If the RI does I will buy one. I haven’t seen a truly good picture of it yet to know. I have been looking at the new SRO10, Ruger, and RIA in 1911 and then a few of the XX pattern 10s. I need to make a decision before spring when I sell my boat.
 
Believe it or not but my my 1911, .45ACP magazines work well with my 10mm guns.


Flightsimmer, if I could nominate someone for The High Road's award of the year, I would enthusiastically nominate you!
I have many Chip McCormick Shooting Star magazines for my 1911s but only 2 Tripp Research magazines for my 10mm. After reading your post, I popped one of the Chip McCormick mags in the RIA 10mm and it fit. Loaded in 9 10mm cartridges and the feed lips held them with no problem. Even more encouraging, they hand-cycled through the RIA perfectly. If they work at the range during live fire I'll be tickled. I don't see why they wouldn't.

Every now and then while surfing our forums, I'll stumble upon a rare kernel of knowledge that makes a profound (and positive) change of plans. Your post is one of those. I was planning on purchasing a few more 10mm magazines. If my .45acp magazines work just as well, you probably saved me $200.

Thanks man!
 
I understand your excitement about the additional utility of the .45 ACP magazines for 10mm, but I would caution you to take steps to assure there are no errors in grabbing the wrong loaded magazine for a particular gun. It may not be dangerous ( or it may) but you wouldn’t want to cross load in either direction.
 
Flightsimmer, if I could nominate someone for The High Road's award of the year, I would enthusiastically nominate you!
I have many Chip McCormick Shooting Star magazines for my 1911s but only 2 Tripp Research magazines for my 10mm. After reading your post, I popped one of the Chip McCormick mags in the RIA 10mm and it fit. Loaded in 9 10mm cartridges and the feed lips held them with no problem. Even more encouraging, they hand-cycled through the RIA perfectly. If they work at the range during live fire I'll be tickled. I don't see why they wouldn't.

Every now and then while surfing our forums, I'll stumble upon a rare kernel of knowledge that makes a profound (and positive) change of plans. Your post is one of those. I was planning on purchasing a few more 10mm magazines. If my .45acp magazines work just as well, you probably saved me $200.

Thanks man!

They might not work just as well, but Wilson 47d .45s work for my 10mm RIA.

I think they might have a jam or two, but for mostly a range gun I dont care.
 
I might write up a range review after putting a few hundred rounds down range using the Shooting Star magazines, complete with any reliability issues. Having a dozen magazines loaded for the range rather than loading the same two certainly would be nice.
 
I reload for the 10mm. When I am pushing the limit my Delta can handle I make sure I weight each charge before I put it in.

Mine maxes out at 10.0 Blue Dot under an 180XTP Getting near 1300fps

You can tell the difference between that and factory loads.

BTW the best factory load I have found, that is close to the advertised velocity, is Sig Elite Performance.
 
I bought a RIA Tac II for carrying in the forest. It works perfectly with Tripp Cobra 9 round magazines. Interestingly, both my 10mm 1911's love Wilson Combat 47D .45ACP 8 round magazines. They have fed 10mm rounds perfectly in both pistols.

I've learned to completely distrust Wilson Combat 47NX 10mm magazines. The follower sticks in the magazine, leaving rounds rattling around inside.

BTW, here are some of my chronograph readings for Underwood ammo in the RIA:

180gr GD : 1317 1328 1337 1370 1345 : avg 1339 ft/s 716 ft-lb
220gr HC : 1178 1193 : avg 1186 ft/s 686 ft-lb
 
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