Remington 700 in 30.06, Montgomery Ward Model 31 12 gauge pump and Beretta 682 o/u golden E all gave me some problems because they didn't fit me. Second problem was by resting them on the butt, all the recoil pads were hard as rocks. New Limb Saver pads, either slip on or screw on helped a lot. The Beretta ended up with a Morgan Pad. And finally dropped down the powder charge to reasonable loads. I wasn't hunting T-rex and Pterodactyl, just deer and ducks.
Rifles that kick like a mule, what you got and what's your work arounds
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This subject requires a revisit of this classic
The guy who owns that rifle is Saeed Al Maktum. It’s a .577 Tyrannosaur in a Hannibal A Square rifle not a .700 NE. He is a member of the UAE royal family and an avid big game hunter. He also runs the Accurate Reloading website. And apparently he’s quite the jokester...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.577_Tyrannosaur
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The most miserable recoiling rifle I’ve ever shot was a .450 Rigby ( think .460 Wthby with no belt) built in a M-70 to be light for carry. The rifle weighed in at just under 7 lbs. It fires a 500 Gr bullet at something over 2400 FPS. But that thing was a muzzle jumping, face slapping SON OF A BISCUT EATER!
I’ve found the .500 Jeffery in a standard weight configured bolt gun to be about most I can accurately shoot. The .500 NE is kind of the sweet point for me as far as horse power to controllability when chambered in a 11.5 to 12Lb double rifle. I’m not going to say it’s pleasant to shoot but it is very controllable with some practice and proper technique.
I’ve found the .500 Jeffery in a standard weight configured bolt gun to be about most I can accurately shoot. The .500 NE is kind of the sweet point for me as far as horse power to controllability when chambered in a 11.5 to 12Lb double rifle. I’m not going to say it’s pleasant to shoot but it is very controllable with some practice and proper technique.
I bought a Model 94 30-30 in a hardware store for $60.00 when I was 14 years old. That was the worst kicking thing I ever got hold of.
Sold it to a sheepherder who was used to a .22. He fired one shot and said." Ayee Chihuahua! That Trenta-trenta he shoots like a bomb!"
He sold it not too long after that to another hired hand. That hand's pickup was stolen, and recovered in Florida with no rifle. I hope that old Winchester kicked the hell out of whoever got it.
Incidentally, I bought a Remington 300 H&H magnum soon afterwards for $81.00. Shot my first elk with it while still 14.
I gave it to my Grandson recently. It is much more pleasant to shoot than that 30-30.
Sold it to a sheepherder who was used to a .22. He fired one shot and said." Ayee Chihuahua! That Trenta-trenta he shoots like a bomb!"
He sold it not too long after that to another hired hand. That hand's pickup was stolen, and recovered in Florida with no rifle. I hope that old Winchester kicked the hell out of whoever got it.
Incidentally, I bought a Remington 300 H&H magnum soon afterwards for $81.00. Shot my first elk with it while still 14.
I gave it to my Grandson recently. It is much more pleasant to shoot than that 30-30.
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When I was first stationed in Alaska in the early 80’s, I had a chance to shoot a 375 H&H. A few of us went to an older guy from work’s cabin for an afternoon of shooting. I was the youngest (19) and really didn’t know much about rifles at the time, as the biggest calibers I’d fired up to this point was a 12 gauge shotgun and a 303 British.
Another young guy went before me and was getting ready to shoot the 375. As it was a warm summer day and he only had a T-shirt on, he looked at the guns owner and asked what he should have on in order to deal with the recoil. I’ll never forget the guys response...dead serious...he looked my coworker in the eye and said “men’s underwear!”
Another young guy went before me and was getting ready to shoot the 375. As it was a warm summer day and he only had a T-shirt on, he looked at the guns owner and asked what he should have on in order to deal with the recoil. I’ll never forget the guys response...dead serious...he looked my coworker in the eye and said “men’s underwear!”
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Sounds like something my grandfather would have told me.
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What seems odd to me is that there are plenty of recoil reduction systems out there, but very few are actually employed. Is that because most dudes think they are too macho to need such devices? I understand a major factor in the Army's decision to go with the 6.5 Creedmoor with some of their sniper rifles is the relatively mild recoil since those guys have to shoot a LOT to stay proficient. Anyhow, I was just looking at some patents on recoil reduction devices and here's one that incorporates coil spring shock absorbers into the stock, which seems obvious but I've never seen one:
https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid...&SectionNum=&idkey=NONE&Input=View+first+page
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No...it was the few years of being in the cabinet that allow the forgetfulness of the amount of kick...when you become old enough to forget the recoil, but can afford to leave nice guns stored away to preserve them for the next generation...THATS WHEN YOU FOGET THE KICK...Kids...buy them books and send them to school...
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For me, the 300WM takes the prize. I've owned 2, both Remington 700 BDL's. I made my longest shot on a nice whitetail buck at 360 yards across a wheat field in western NE. He dropped like he'd been hit with an axe. I love the caliber because, I could hold dead on out to 400 yards and make a good hit. As we all know, when you're shooting at a game animal you don't notice the kick but man load development and practice just sucks. I no longer own a rifle in this caliber due to 3 surgeries on my shooting shoulder.
My first gun, an ancient Stevens 12 gauge single shot, comes in a close second.
My first gun, an ancient Stevens 12 gauge single shot, comes in a close second.
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I've seen a few of these incorporated into F Class rigs
http://www.hartshooting.com/
at $250 before installation, not something intended for the casual shooter
http://www.hartshooting.com/
at $250 before installation, not something intended for the casual shooter
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Do they work?
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absolutely
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Stevens single shot, plastic stock, 4 1/2 lbs. shooting Remington express #6 shot. The gun was borrowed from a friend. I had never held a gun let alone shot one. After walking the woods for a while looking for pheasant I leaned against a large tree for a snack. I saw a squirrel and pulled up the gun and fired. With a 4 1/2 lb.12 gauge on one side and a tree on the other side what happened was unbelievable. I saw a flash of light (not from the blast) and felt an unbelievable amount of pain in my right shoulder. If I had shot myself it wouldn't hurt as much. I rolled to the left and just laid there for at least 10 minutes. Work around, DON'T DO THAT and a slip on pad.
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3 1/2" factory goose loads on the practice range. Absolutely unneeded miserable waste of time. I don't even hunt with them, just wanted to try out a box. Shot the rest in the blind in December, nary felt a one. Slugs ain't no fun neither. I also got an 8mm with an LOP that is way too short, and 20 rounds gets old real fast.
Thirty years ago, a friend stopped by to try out his .458 Lott double rifle. Originally a .458 Winchester, he figured he'd need the add'l smack that a .458 Lott would provide on his upcoming African adventure. He showed up with the gun, a ten pounder on the bathroom scales, and a fist full of cartridges. After a couple of rounds of pasture clay bird shooting, we decided to try the new cannon against a standing, but dead, white oak tree along one of my lower pastures here on the farm.
With my two teen aged sons and another friend from work that'd played defensive football for the Cowboys back in the late 60's, we watched him load up both barrels and 'stalk' to within 50 yds of the oak. Thumbing back BOTH hammers, he touched her off at the offending tree and was promptly knocked off his feet by the recoil.
The gun had double triggers and he'd pulled the forward one, and managed to pull the rear as well during the heroic recoil. Dazed & dusting himself off while getting up, he offered us the chance to give it a try....gotta remember that big, ex-Dallas Cowboy football player's response, "not on your life"...and we retired to the porch for some Kentucky "Fruit Juice".
He was successful on his African hunt, bagging a big Cape Buffalo with the gun, but I doubt the gun's was ever fired after he returned. A single .458 Lott cartridge produces 75 ft/lbs of recoil in that weight of gun, and he'd touched off two of them. I've often wondered why he didn't dislocate his shoulder. Penetration by those ~500 grain solids was impressive, I'm sure, but they didn't punch through the 26" diameter oak.
Best Regards, Rod
With my two teen aged sons and another friend from work that'd played defensive football for the Cowboys back in the late 60's, we watched him load up both barrels and 'stalk' to within 50 yds of the oak. Thumbing back BOTH hammers, he touched her off at the offending tree and was promptly knocked off his feet by the recoil.
The gun had double triggers and he'd pulled the forward one, and managed to pull the rear as well during the heroic recoil. Dazed & dusting himself off while getting up, he offered us the chance to give it a try....gotta remember that big, ex-Dallas Cowboy football player's response, "not on your life"...and we retired to the porch for some Kentucky "Fruit Juice".
He was successful on his African hunt, bagging a big Cape Buffalo with the gun, but I doubt the gun's was ever fired after he returned. A single .458 Lott cartridge produces 75 ft/lbs of recoil in that weight of gun, and he'd touched off two of them. I've often wondered why he didn't dislocate his shoulder. Penetration by those ~500 grain solids was impressive, I'm sure, but they didn't punch through the 26" diameter oak.
Best Regards, Rod
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