Rimfire Help!

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I need help deciding! Santa maight be on the way! I held and liked a Savage 17 hmr at cabela's. I mostly want to use it for paper/plinking/practice up to 150yds+or-. It could see some rabbit duty. Is there a bolt rifle that can shoot more than 1 size rimfire under $500.00 as good as a Savage?(can buy more barrels later) Would I be better off with a 22 mag or just a 9mm carbine? I have a 10-22 I just don't like it's lack of accuracy that much. TA
 
The only multi barrel rimfire I can think of is the Sako Quad. 4 interchangeable barrels, optional scope to match. Downside, there's no chance you'll get the complete package for under $500.
 
OK lets forget multi barrel.

The Savage is on sale for 370 or 380 witha sweet 17 scope. I don't know anything about 17 hmr. I just got back into shooting about a year ago. I only ever had a 22 lr. I want to get into a bigger CF once I get my skills to where I'm satisfied which is what I want this for. I just don't want to buy a rifle I can't use anywhere but the range. I assume rabbits, squirrels-but how big can you hunt with them? Would I be better off with a 22lr or 22mag instead?
 
my heavy barrel savage 93r19bv will shoot .303" 5 shoot group at 100 yards.
it used to do that, but , when determing accuracy with a gun destined for a lesser scope, i do all testing with a weaver T10 scope, it now wears a nikon prostaff 4x, and will shoot about 1-1 1/2 " at 100 yards off an emprovised rest.
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do what i did

the best thing to do is to buy a ruger 10 22, then convert it over to 17hm2 wich is very easy just a barrel and charging handle, you can change it back and forth from 22 to 17hm2, the 17hm2 is an exelent round, my new favorite, plus you get all the benefits of a 10 22
 
150 yd rimfire screams 17hmr! My savage 93r17 shoots 1/2" at 100 and 1 1/2" at 200. Try that with a $200 22. I hope that $380 deal has a fancy stock or something besides a bsa scope?
 
Is it possible to change a 10/22 in lr to 22 mag?

No, but Ruger did and may still offer a 22mag version of the 10/22. Looks the same, but action is beefier, balanced diferently, etc. It's not just a barrel change. Volquartsen offers one in 22 mag.
 
Wow thanks guys!
shevrock-I just kinda want a bolt. A TC is nice though.
Inspector-no worries:) We all do it. Didn't mean to sound harsh.
hossdaniels-yes fancy stock, targetish not thumbhole. Buck Rogers as my dad would say.

Is that sweet 17 scope any good?
 
I don't want to try to talk you into something you don't want but perhaps you should consider sticking with a nice .22LR bolt action like a CZ452 or Savage MarkII with the Accutrigger. Both fit your budget, will be fine for punching paper at 100 easily and 150 if your scope allows enough elevation. The .22 will allow a lot more trigger time at the range which means your shooting will improve faster.

For example, at Cabela's you could get 500 rounds of .17 HMR for $120 or you could get 3,000 rounds of Winchester Wildcat .22LR.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Im telling go 17hm2, all the power and accuracy of a 17hmr but much cheaper to shoot, plus you can put it on a 10 22 platform, if you already have a 10 22 , for 150$ you can change it to 17hm2 and back and forth to
22lr. i can take my 17hm2 and hit pennies all day long at 100yrd's:D

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Don't count out the multi-barrel system. You can get a sako quad at whittakers guns for 449.95. Buy the caliber you intend to shoot most and buy another barrel later for another 85-100 bucks. Unbelievable gun for that money.

HM2 is an incredible round....... but it does not have all the power of the .17 HMR. That is a huge exageration.... unless you mean it has the same power at the muzzle as the HMR has at 100 yrds. That is fact based on ballistic tables. The mach 2 is much more interesting than the 22 lr in many respects though.
 
I am also a huge fan of the mach 2 round, you can get the ammo from ammunitiontogo.com for 4 bucks a box. even in stores, remmy/eley, cci, horny, goes for about 6 bucks a box.
plus with the mach 2, your rifle may be able to shoot the 17 aguila round. It will definitely shoot it, but it may or may not be as accurate as your regular mach 2 rounds. I know, because I shoot 17 aggies all the time. My rifle happens to like them quite well. You could also get a remmy 552 speedmaster, or fieldmaster, or pump master. they shoot 22 short, long, and long rifles. I have a speedmaster, which is semiauto, and love that thing. Plus it is the only rifle so far that I have found, that can shoot the massive Aguila sniper sss 60 grain rounds, both accurately , and without keyholing them almost instantly.
Also a marlin 80 or 81 series, has been made for about 70 years now, new they are called 981's, and they are bolt action. They can shoot short, long , or long rifle as well.

One more thing, if you have not allready, take the front barrel(bbl) band off of the front of your rifle. See if that doesn' thelp accuracy a bunch.
Then try tightening up your v-block, under the bbl., making sure that your bbl is not loose, so to speak. Try those two tings first, if still not accurate enough for you, try going over to rimfirecentral, and go to the classifieds, and see if you can buy a better bbl. If you do all of this, and still not accurate enough for you, then get one of the above rifles I mentioned.
 
oh yeah, just to compare, the mach 2 versus the hmr.
avg cost per box, 6 bucks, versus 14.
speed eley/remmy ammo for the mach 2, 2300 fps. other mach 2 ammo, about 2200 fps. hmr-2600 plus fps
the hmr has approx a 60 yd advantage over the mach 2. In other words, if we were at a 100 yds range, and I went out 60 yds in front of you, and you stayed back at the 0 yd line, and we fired at the same time, our rounds would get to the 100 yd mark about the same time.
a mach 2, zero'd at 100 yds, will drop about 5 inches at 150, and about 12 inches at 200.
A hmr zero'd at 100 yds, only drops about 3 inches at 150, and about 7 inches at 200 yds.
Since I go to the range a lot, the mach 2 saves me hundreds of dollars per year in ammo cost.
 
oh yeah, just to compare, the mach 2 versus the hmr.

Actually the 17 hm2 only drops 9/10 of an inch at 100yrds:uhoh:
 
Actually the 17 hm2 only drops 9/10 of an inch at 100yrds

The .17 HM2 drops 4.8" at 100 yards. "Drop" is the total effect of gravity and is equal to the distance the bullet falls if the barrel is held horizontal.

If the .17 HM2 is zeroed at 75 yards, it will only be down 0.8" at 100 yards.

If it is zeroed at 100 yards, the mid-range trajectory will only be about 3/4" and it will be down 1 1/4" at 125 yards.
 
hmm, than why is it that when i shoot at 50yrds, i hit withen my 1/2 inch target and when i move back to 100yrds and with no adjustments i hit withen the 1/2 inch mark?

just curious, i cant remember where i heard the 9/10 of an inch drop at 100yrds, but it does seem to fit the bill at least with my setup
 
At what range are you zeroed?

If you're talking "drop," you're talking with a zero at zero yards.

Now if you're zeroed at 100 yards (and it sounds like you are), then, as I said, 100 yards, the mid-range trajectory will only be about 3/4". In other words, from the muzzle out to 100 yards, you should be within 3/4" of you line of sight.
 
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