rscalzo
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Face it. Even the used guns taken into local gun shops are not tested. None that I know of around here tests the guns traded in. Most will give a guarantee to return if defective. Most also charge more than the pawn shops.
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Face it. Even the used guns taken into local gun shops are not tested. None that I know of around here tests the guns traded in. Most will give a guarantee to return if defective. Most also charge more than the pawn shops.
CajunBass
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I don't see where anyone "ripped you off". You bought a pig in a poke, and got burned. The shop had no more way to know it didn't work than you did. Bite the bullet and move on, or get the gun fixed. Good grief. It's a pump gun. It can't be but so complicated. I don't know what you paid for it, but I wouldn't have paid but so much for a Stevens pump. They weren't expensive new.
My BIL has/had one. I don't know if the barrel was "welded" or not, but it wasn't removable. Not a bad gun really.
My BIL has/had one. I don't know if the barrel was "welded" or not, but it wasn't removable. Not a bad gun really.
BADUNAME37
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If this is the gun I think it is (Springfield model 67H), I believe that gun was sold under different names (and model numbers) back before guns were required to have serial numbers. It was not uncommon for these to have been sold new at Sears, and Western Auto - back in the day when Sears and WA sold guns.
The pump-action shotguns are really fairly simple to completely dismantle and reassemble, that is, if you are careful and know what you are doing.
Reassembling a pump shotgun can be a bear if you don't know in what order and exactly how the parts go in. I know, from experience that - if you bull and jam the thing to try to make the pieces go back together - that is when the problems start as you are bending certain parts that were designed to be perfectly straight! I'm thinking, in particular, of the action bar (some have one, others, two) that makes the bolt operate from movement of the sliding forend. The action bar(s) are typically the most difficult part to get in properly and easily. If you jam on that to make it fit, you will most likely have a gun that either doesn't work or doesn't work properly!
Also, many of these old guns have never been completely disassembled and cleaned. Grease that was used back in the 60's becomes hard over the years and nothing short of removing every single part and cleaning it with carb cleaner and a toothbrush will get the parts clean and in working order (especially tiny parts, springs, etc). Add a bit of field-dirt to that hardened grease and you have parts that no longer work properly just due to being so gunked up!
The pump-action shotguns are really fairly simple to completely dismantle and reassemble, that is, if you are careful and know what you are doing.
Reassembling a pump shotgun can be a bear if you don't know in what order and exactly how the parts go in. I know, from experience that - if you bull and jam the thing to try to make the pieces go back together - that is when the problems start as you are bending certain parts that were designed to be perfectly straight! I'm thinking, in particular, of the action bar (some have one, others, two) that makes the bolt operate from movement of the sliding forend. The action bar(s) are typically the most difficult part to get in properly and easily. If you jam on that to make it fit, you will most likely have a gun that either doesn't work or doesn't work properly!
Also, many of these old guns have never been completely disassembled and cleaned. Grease that was used back in the 60's becomes hard over the years and nothing short of removing every single part and cleaning it with carb cleaner and a toothbrush will get the parts clean and in working order (especially tiny parts, springs, etc). Add a bit of field-dirt to that hardened grease and you have parts that no longer work properly just due to being so gunked up!
Mike1234567
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Sorry to hear of your problem. IMHO, most pawn shops are opened with the GOAL to be rip-off scams.
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A "pawn shop" ripping someone off, not standing behind what they sell???
Who ever heard of that happening?
All sales final regardless of what they say about the item when its sold.
Sort of says it all ~ I don't by used cars at "Fast Eddies" either. I don't think I would buy anything from a dealer who as a matter of policy and advertising, won't stand behind their product. "All sales final" is stated for a reason.
1. They don't care about the quality of the item.
2. Once your money is in their pocket ~ its your problem.
Who ever heard of that happening?
All sales final regardless of what they say about the item when its sold.
Sort of says it all ~ I don't by used cars at "Fast Eddies" either. I don't think I would buy anything from a dealer who as a matter of policy and advertising, won't stand behind their product. "All sales final" is stated for a reason.
1. They don't care about the quality of the item.
2. Once your money is in their pocket ~ its your problem.
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I don't think the OP mentioned just what kind of problem the gun was giving him. Perhaps all the old gun needed was some TLC, complete strip-down and clean every part and reassemble. I know, as I have a .22 Semi Auto from 1950 - 1957 era that I have spent about 14 hours on in the past three days, completely removing and dismantling EVERY SINGLE PART! I figure there was a total of about one level teaspoon of grayish, black, gritty material all through the receiver and all within the tiny springs and parts of the bolt!
The insides of the gun looked like it had NEVER been cleaned since it was new! It looked like someone threw it into the sand on the beach at one point and just wiped it down and continued to shoot it! The one positive thing is that the parts are well-broken in together with all that grit over the years wearing on things! Inside the bolt, there was a pin that was broken in half! I happened to have a tiny, hardened steel small screwdriver with a shaft which mic'd at the exact diameter of that pin! I used my Dremel with a cut-off wheel to cut the screwdriver shaft down to the size of the broken pin and the new pin fit just like it was original!
All I can say is, after all this trouble, I hope the thing shoots!
LOL!
It was given to me, so I really only have TIME into it.
The insides of the gun looked like it had NEVER been cleaned since it was new! It looked like someone threw it into the sand on the beach at one point and just wiped it down and continued to shoot it! The one positive thing is that the parts are well-broken in together with all that grit over the years wearing on things! Inside the bolt, there was a pin that was broken in half! I happened to have a tiny, hardened steel small screwdriver with a shaft which mic'd at the exact diameter of that pin! I used my Dremel with a cut-off wheel to cut the screwdriver shaft down to the size of the broken pin and the new pin fit just like it was original!
All I can say is, after all this trouble, I hope the thing shoots!
LOL!
It was given to me, so I really only have TIME into it.
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Enough. The OP says it's a moral issue for him; he's aware of the law. This isn't a morality forum.
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