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BINGO!!

What my mind was picturing all along. Hand written, short and sweet, an inperfect brick...

Mike and others did a great job! I thank Mike and the others.

I really like the realism of this one!! It gives the sense this brick did in fact go through a window.

Where is the smiley with the "Don't Tread On Me" flag in hand when I need it?

Thanks!!!
 
Coming together.

I've got a good journalist in mind now, but I'm waiting on some legal advice before making any moves. We want lots of "bricks" going to each target every time, so we're waiting to get a little bigger, as well. Thank you to everyone who is in so far. We can do this. It's gonna be great.
 
Still waiting on some replies myself.

I have forwarded the pic with brick and shards of glass to a few for clarification on legal opinions and other input as well.

Err...some of you "Sages" I referred to earlier...just contact me...since you "just happen" to frequent this forum anyway.

:D

I have to leave for a bit. Oh boy. I get to go to place with metal detectors...what else can I put in my pockets to set that thing off?....:p

I like to put my Zippo in my shirt pocket for times like this...I might as well get my money's worth of entertainment and driving folks nuts. Pockets are empty and the boy still beeps...we have his pen...< guards scratch heads> ;)
 
Ummm...this is bad PR waiting to happen, folks.

The grabbers are going to have a field day with the mainstream media fallout (which they themselves will organize of course).

We don't NEED desperation measures.
 
Anyone thinking of sending shards of glass with their rock should refrain from such actions. If just one letter opener in the mail room gets cut it will be disastrous. They will make it out like we are trying to harm people and that we are going to do the same with firearms. They will say that this is a warning that we will hurt more innocent people and next time we will do it with those evil guns. They will say that we are sending "crystaline substances" through the mail that resemble dangerous chemicals. Whole mail rooms and post offices will be evacuated wholesale.

Anything we mail to any legislator will not be opened by them but by the people in the mail room.
 
Ummm...this is bad PR waiting to happen, folks.

The grabbers are going to have a field day with the mainstream media fallout (which they themselves will organize of course).

We don't NEED desperation measures.

I understand your viewpoint here and I agree with it to a degree. However do you realize you sort of sound like the lawyer in Midnight Express, right?

"Be good, the judge he likes you, you will be out soon"

I am on the fence with this one as to whether or not it is a good idea. I just thought helping the organizers of this with a good image is the least I could do.
 
Umm, I thought the idea here was to send a picture of a brick/rock, not an actual brick/rock. A piece of paper with a non-threatening message, and a media campaign to ensure the message is percieved as non-threatening is the whole attraction. The only threat that should ever be taken from such a message should be that the individual would lose their job at the next election if they didn't reform their ways.
 
Folks, please read the entire thread before posting.

Nobody here is advocating that people send shards of glass. The glass was in a photo of a brick.
Bad PR?
Right now we have NO PR. Bad PR, in my opinion is a little better. Folks don't even realize there is an issue right now. Also, that is why we are using a journalist to explain before the fact, so that we have pre-empted the media spin. Nobody is threatening anybody. What we are doing, is telling various lawmakers that we are watching, and we are willing to take a stand on this issue.
For too long, gun owners have tried to be quiet, hoping we could pacify the grabbers if we don't make noise.
News Flash! It ain't working!
The politicians see us being good little boys and girls, and they think we are happy with how things are going. Enough of us obviously at the polls, so we must be happy, right?
This is a way for folks to get involved that doesn't require time and effort. If there is anything I have learned in my 29 years of life, it is that most people are lazy to one extent or another. Not necessarily a bad thing. Laziness is the mother of innovation.
We are not doing anything illegal. We are not doing anything "immoral". We are sending a message. The 2nd amendment shall not be infringed. So far as I know, nothing is illegal about quoting the BOR.
The left has made great advances by making themselves heard.
We have lost much ground through being quiet and not "rocking the boat".
Even many of our own are disturbed at the thought of open carry. Why is that?
No. Bad PR, I don't buy it. I just don't buy it.
A press release is being issued, with a statement of our intent.
We aren't blowing anything up. We aren't stopping traffic during the San Fransisco commute.
Hel, we aren't even picketing anybody.
We are sending letters. As protests go, ours is pretty da$$ tame. An armed march on the Capitol building, now that would be bad PR. We aren't doing that, though.
We're sending freakin' letters.
I guess the point I'm making is, if we can't send a letter without fear of reprisal, we're already subjects, no longer citizens.

Now that you've read all of this, please post any comments or discussion to the other thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=1051486#post1051486
This thread was to be for updates from myself and sm.
Thank you for your help and comments.
 
I have been receiving some excellent replies and suggestions from my "Sages".

I'm working on it...really I am.

What do you think of a NON- threatening "Pic" or "Pics" , one that re -enforces ALL Liberties, and one while re-enforcing All Liberties refers to the Second Amendment ?

Okay so I kinda sorta moved away from the Window War. The thread, the posts from that thread is what started my juices to flow.

WE THE PEOPLE are concerned with a LOT of political concerns in regard to Liberties. Second Amendment is the keystone atop the rest of them . IMO

What I'm working on is simple. We will each have these pics. We can still all send to the same person at the same time.

Now if for instance one chose to use this as letterhead and use on a Word document to whomever...with a "form letter".

One is not suposed to say "I". I want to keep it legal. I want the folks that receive correspondence to take note of the civility, the class, the way MY View are expressed.

In no way am I going to be percieved as a knuckle dragging, gun nut, threatening folks. NO MY sterotype...My Profile is going to be "damn- this fella knows what is what, I'm not fooling him with my lies and deceit, my goodness this fella voted me in and he can vote me out". I better listen , I best read the Constitution or I'm going to be flipping burgers come election time". That is what I want MY message to send.

This is no more a threat than one getting aform letter from a Organization they do not believe in or support. It does send a message.

I recieve mail all the time with Postage stamps, return labels, stationary with logos...supporting a cause.

I just don't recieve 200 in one day is all...:D

I'm still waiting on some things. I have to 1) get out these clothes and get some jeans on 2) I have to try Barnes & Noble ...or somewhere [ B&N didn't have last time I looked] for something.
 
y'all need to read up on the 50 million round march

http://www.freewebz.com/jeffhead/50mrmarch/

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15397

In addition to target shooting, each event would include a letter-writing campaign directed at congressional representatives and senators, as well as state governors and the U.S. president, informing them of the shooter's participation in the event and their "insistence that infringements on this constitutional right cease."

"As a memento of the event, the participants will include either one of their used targets with their letters or two spent cartridges in a mailer box with their letters," said a statement.

Officials said they did not want shooters to send in silhouette targets -- targets with outlines in the shape of a person -- or live ammunition, only spent cartridges and simple paper targets with "bull's-eye-type" centers or images. Organizers also ask that participants do not send threatening letters or images such as actual photographs of lawmakers or officials with bullet holes in them. Organizers have already designed a sample target participants can download and use.
 
Help!

Okay - I am stupid.

I was sent a pic. I saved the attachement and saved to disk. the Attachment was Word.

So I open the Word Document all I can see is :

Quick Time ( tm) and a TIFF ( uncompressed) decompressor are needed to see this picture

Okay, I have Quick Time ( tm) . Let me rephrase - I have "something" Quick Time ( tm) . I have to have Quick Time( tm) and Real Player ( tm) along with XPPro and IE 6 to take IT classes. Ha Ha ...laugh all you want.

I'm in the midst of seeking any updates. If I get one more preview of ...I don't know what or whom.... whatever makes a lot of racket and gets paid for doing so. :)
 
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Whole sentences are a nice thing.
They allow others to understand and participate in the discussion, instead of watching a stream of angst from the sidelines.

It sounds like you are default saving the attachment as a .doc for M$ word.

The attachment may not be a .doc file.

It maybe a compressed zip carrier file holding several jpgs.

Wanna picture of a brick?
http://images.google.com/images?q=brick&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search
Results 1 - 20 of about 129,000 for brick
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It sounds like you are attempting to organize a national writing campaign
with a bunch of enthusiasm and little practical experience. There are a ton of experienced folkes on this forum, but y'all are going to need to organize your message to us in a manner that effectively communicates the parameters of the operation. Covert style thread hopping seems a tad frenetic. Do you have the ability to set up a website using Jeff Head's 50MRM as an example?
 
Bricks references are a bad idea -- the elected things will think about Kristallnacht or Intifadah. Just write letters. Illustrate them, if you wish, but in a clear, non-threatening manner.
 
how about

NUTS, big walnuts painted saftey orange - get it?

Attach then with a string to a note card and our message?
 
Bricks references are a bad idea -- the elected things will think about Kristallnacht or Intifadah. Just write letters. Illustrate them, if you wish, but in a clear, non-threatening manner.
Oleg is correct.

Inspired by the The Window War, I broke one of MY first rules, which is to NOT React / Respond without thinking matters through first.

I screwed up , and for this I apologize and take full responsibility.

NO excuses, no rationalization of my thinking, no qualifrications for actions.

Admit I messed up , apologize, accept the consequences, learn from it and move on.

Intent of the user defines the outcome of the use of any tool, object, or word.

I had good intentions with using an image for a tool to convey a message. The Truth of the matter is, We The People , whether we like it or not are in fact, Stereotyped.

Researching , asking for help and ideas from those more learned and experinced I learned some things. I should have done this first, I should have already known by using history, learning by the mistakes of others and some I should have simply trusted my gut.

The lessons and advice I have received is simple, Oleg stated it very concise in his post which I put in quote.

I wanted to deviate from the Window War a work of fiction, for a number of reasons, I will not go into all, but mention one that was pointed out to me.

"We have a bunch of gun whackos that cannot think for themselves, reading a bunch of fiction and getting all riled up and breaking laws."

All right by gawd, that crossed the line in the sand with me. I became "unhappy" with We The People, being perceived this way, this time I gave some thought before having a reaction.

We have the Constitution, The Bill of Rights, and clearly written is WE THE PEOPLE. We have Liberties and Rights. Our Forefathers did not want us to become from whence we came - Tyranny.

An organized letter writing campaign, to specific elected persons directly involved with a specific Liberty or Right being infringed. At any time one of these is threatened every single day with legislation that goes against that which was written on an old parchment so many years ago.

With a picture of our rights and the particular one being threatened "magnified" sent as the message itself, or used as a letterhead with a short well written form letter sent by WE The People is a better idea.

Two , three hundred , four hundred of these sent to amplify our disgust in regard to AWB, to Feinstein, RNC, or name the person or infringement.

Now who is the "whacko" ? If one tells the truth - one does not have to remember the lie.

NO threats, nothing illegal, the only implications , threats or ill actions are those that are committed by those "elected " to represent us - WE The People.

This experience also revealed to me something I must have buried - denial if you will. I have a goal, a dream if you will. I have something I want to do, I have to be honest and admit I do not have the skills and education to do this - yet.

I will therefore do as I have all along, do what I can in support of those more learned and experienced. I admit I am not one of the learned and experienced.

Regards,

Steve.
 
"He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures."

"He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries."

"He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power."

"For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments"

We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity.

Are we waiting until the entire list will be realized again?
 
Bricks references are a bad idea -- the elected things will think about Kristallnacht or Intifadah. Just write letters. Illustrate them, if you wish, but in a clear, non-threatening manner.

Moving away from "the window war" idea is fine with me, but I don't think a simple letter is sufficient. I envision the sending of the brick as a reminder that this country was built upon the strong foundation of the Constitution. If you remove any of the "bricks",i.e, the 2nd amendment, the foundation begins to crumble, and soon the entire structure must topple.
This is a non threatening message.
It is simple, something easily articulated by our media representative.
Easy to reproduce and send.
Instantly recongnizable.

If politicians want to get all paranoid and think of Kristalnacht or whatever, if they feel threatened and start carping to the media, let them. Our position will already have been firmly stated, and they will come off to Joe average as fools. All the better.
Moreover, a photoshopped brick and it's message will be easily understood by the masses. It is easily relayed in a 10 second sound byte on the local news.
I say we stay with the Photoshopped brick idea. Perhaps with BOR or some such on it, to represent the entire Bill Of Rights. I think the basic idea is sound.
I don't propose to huddle in a corner the rest of my life in fear of what people might think.
 
The average American is not dumb, he just doesn't have enough time to investigate all the details of every policy proposal. If we were to sit down with Joe Average and explain to them the stupidity behind this law he would probably agree with us, I'm betting. Unfortunately that takes time. Anti gunners just have to put up a picture of a scary looking gun and a tearful victim to convince people that these "weapons of war" should be banned.
 
The average American is not dumb, he just doesn't have enough time to investigate all the details of every policy proposal. If we were to sit down with Joe Average and explain to them the stupidity behind this law he would probably agree with us, I'm betting. Unfortunately that takes time. Anti gunners just have to put up a picture of a scary looking gun and a tearful victim to convince people that these "weapons of war" should be banned.

Exactly. Joe average doesn't have the time to examione the facts and read or listen to a letter. A 10 second sound byte about foundation and bricks etc, can be absorbed fairly quickly and easily.

And how he soaks up the media tells him.

Exactly. Which is why we will get our media endorsed version out first. Once our version is relayed, the other side is on damage control and attempted reversal of "known facts". Much harder than preemptively writing us off as loons.
 
Sending bricks...

...does have the potential to be viewed as threat, especially in any sort of context with broken glass or such. However, they can also be a wonderfully concrete (no pun intended) symbol, with the right accompanying material. To that end, I propose something like the attached image (sorry, couldn't figure out how to get it into the body; it's a picture of a brick wall, with one brick missing). Somebody else suggested the "foundation" motif; I think this would bring that idea to bear, and remove the "weapon" or "vandalism" thoughts. Caption the image to the effect of "Hey, Bill, you really ought to have somebody look at that foundation!" (replace "Bill" with the name of the recipient), and it's a message that's impossible to ignore. By sending an actual brick (with "2nd Amendment" written thereupon), we stand out--dramatically--from the hundreds/thousands of other letters received every day. Even if it's only staffers/interns opening and reading the mail, word will get around, quickly. "Hey, did you guys get any bricks in the mail? Yeah, me too." People talk about the unusual. A letter, even a picture, isn't unusual. A three-pound hunk of clay or concrete is. By sticking in their minds, we take control of the conversation; if they're all talking about us, we've A) raised awareness of our issue, B) put that issue ahead of the others, and C) shown a large number of interested parties (if we coordinate it correctly). I just think having a solid, tangible symbol--something unique, something that can't be ignored, would be useful.

Just my two cents, anyway.
 
Flyboy,

I really like the actual brick for the reasons you mentioned. However, for logistical reasons, I feel that the picture will work out better for mass mailings. I've been thinking of perhaps doing special mailings to severe "offenders" once in awhile.
 
From the get-go I envisioned that we would be sending a small, smooth river rock of about 2 inches with "2nd Amend" or "2 Amend" or "2nd Amendment" scrawled on it with a magic marker; and perhaps http://www.lizmichael.com/windowwa.htm on the other.

How we ever got to bricks I have no idea. I guess it was a natuar escalation which is what we are usually accused of.

Sending a small rock is non-threatening, and can be mailed anonymously at any mailbox because it does not exceed the 8 oz. limit for being placed in a mailbox.

I'm still in favor of the 2" rock but bricks? I don't think so. Pictures of bricks? Ditto.
 
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