Sin City Shootist
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Anyone ever load up this combination for this gun? Do they foul at all in an old Glock?
RMR Plated HP and Glock 21 1st gen
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rcmodel
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No reason at all it would foul any more, or less, in an old Glock then a new Glock, or any other gun.
Plated bullets work just fine in Glocks, and other guns.
rc
Plated bullets work just fine in Glocks, and other guns.
rc
Sin City Shootist
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Thanks rc. I usually buy from Missouri bullet for my FNP but I know better then running lead through the glock.
rcmodel
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A lot of people, myself included, have shot cast lead bullets in Glocks since the first ones came into the country without incident, or leading.
It's more a proper bullet hardness issue, coupled with cleaning the dang gun with a bore brush every couple 300 rounds, rather then a lead bullet problem.
Early 1st. Gen Glocks were designed to be able to fire out of battery by as much as 3/32" or more.
Lead & bullet lube mixed with hard carbon fouling can build up in the headspace shoulder in the end of the chamber.
That holds them open / out of battery further & further as they get dirtier & dirtier.
Newer Glocks have fixed the firing-out-of-battery design flaw, and have tighter chambers and better case support then the early guns.
Shoot hard lead bullets and clean the dang chamber every month or two and they will do just fine!
rc
It's more a proper bullet hardness issue, coupled with cleaning the dang gun with a bore brush every couple 300 rounds, rather then a lead bullet problem.
Early 1st. Gen Glocks were designed to be able to fire out of battery by as much as 3/32" or more.
Lead & bullet lube mixed with hard carbon fouling can build up in the headspace shoulder in the end of the chamber.
That holds them open / out of battery further & further as they get dirtier & dirtier.
Newer Glocks have fixed the firing-out-of-battery design flaw, and have tighter chambers and better case support then the early guns.
Shoot hard lead bullets and clean the dang chamber every month or two and they will do just fine!
rc
Sin City Shootist
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Thanks for setting me straight on that little fact. I think I'll order 1K from RMR and give'em a shot(no pun intended).
rcmodel
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Sorry if I went on a rant!
It just seems to me that a lot of the Glock + lead bullet internet myth was caused by folks who never tried it. Or ever reloaded anything with cast lead bullets.
Or folks who believe the "Glocks never need cleaning" internet myth.
rc
It just seems to me that a lot of the Glock + lead bullet internet myth was caused by folks who never tried it. Or ever reloaded anything with cast lead bullets.
Or folks who believe the "Glocks never need cleaning" internet myth.
rc
Sin City Shootist
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No problem rc. I believe my manual stated not to use lead bullets which is why I asked if the plated were ok to use.
On my FNP I stick 2 jacketed rounds at the end of the mag to help clean out any lead fouling. Would you recommend this or is it a waste of time. And I always clean my guns
On my FNP I stick 2 jacketed rounds at the end of the mag to help clean out any lead fouling. Would you recommend this or is it a waste of time. And I always clean my guns
rcmodel
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Well, jacketed rounds would help clean lead out of the barrel, but they won't clean the chamber.
Actually, lead bullets are not supposed to lead enough to make cleaning difficult.
If you have leading problems, you need to address the load, not the cleaning method.
rc
Actually, lead bullets are not supposed to lead enough to make cleaning difficult.
If you have leading problems, you need to address the load, not the cleaning method.
rc
Sin City Shootist
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I have no real leading problems at all so maybe its a waste of time.
LiveLife
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rc, I think you hit the nail right on the head! Some of the Glock KB issues were probably aggrevated by the "Glocks never need cleaning" notion and shooters not cleaning the barrel that allowed buildup of fouling in the chamber. Glocks chambers are larger than many factory chambers and may allow more fouling buildup in the chamber before malfunction occurs, but even Glocks surely can't go forever without cleaning!
The tighter chambers and better case base support in Gen3/Gen4 Glock barrels will make the fouling build up even worse if the barrels are not cleaned. If there is significant gas cutting of the lead bullet base, the fouling/lead buildup will happen even faster. For shooting lead bullets in factory Glock barrels, I also recommend inspecting/cleaning every 200-300 rounds.
Well said.
Sin City Shooter, RMR plated bullets have high quality plating on them and you should be fine using jacketed bullet load data (RMR plated 45ACP bullet diameter is 0.451", same as jacketed bullet).
Seedtick
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I shoot a lot of Jacob's plated bullets and they work great. But don't think of his plated bullets being regular plated bullets. I shoot mostly his 357 bullets and I load them exactly the same as jacketed bullets. The plating is thicker than on most bullets. So just load them like you would any high quality jacketed bullet and you'll be fine.
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