ROA 45 acp vs 45 Colt

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Because you own a modern handgun in .45 ACP
or,
Because you have access to a reloading set up for .45 ACP
or,
Because you have a couple of full ammo cans containing .45 ACP (new or reloads)
or,
All of the above!

:D

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.45 Colt casing is longer than the .45 ACP. Therefore it will hold more smoke-n-boom. Therefore I have a .45 Colt conversion cylinder. :D

Besides, my Taurus Judge shoots .45 Colt also so I can reload for both and I don't shoot the 1911 as often.
 
azyogi said:
45 acp will shoot any regular load [non +p], the 45lc is restricted to cowboy loads.

To be specific, I think you are are meaning to say that both the .45 ACP and .45 Colt loads are supposed to be cowboy loads (less than 1000 fps) when using in a conversion cylinder. The .45 Colt is more than capable of hitting 1,500 fps. However, most off the shelf .45 ACP loads are under 1000 fps whereas you need to pay more attention for off the shelf .45 Colt loads.

Per SASS rules:

"Revolver ammunition must have a muzzle velocity less than 1,000 fps. Rifle ammunition must have a muzzle velocity less than 1,400 fps."
 
The shorter case seems to work better for the Squibb loads the cowboys prefer. Better accuracy. Also the brass can be had a lot cheaper than 45 Colt.
 
It's interesting because the throat length on a 45 acp cylinder, before the bullet ever gets to the forcing cone and let alone the barrel rifling, has got to be much greater than the 45 Colt.

I would have thought that the longer case of the 45 Colt, which puts the bullet much closer to the barrel would be a better choice for accuracy.
 
Maybe Ironhead is being specific to mouse fart loads. That is, with mouse fart loads the .45 ACP is more accurate? I don't shoot those kind of loads....not enough smoke and boom for me. A lot of CAS don't even use BP so I guess they don't care about the sweat smell of sulfur like me. :scrutiny:
 
Same reason I bought Marlin .444 Outfitter instead of .45-70 or .450 Guide Gun.
I already own revolvers and a carbine in .44 mag and have several .430-.431 bullet molds.
I have a couple of .45ACP bullet molds. Don't have any LC molds, even though I can use ACP bullets in LC barrels.
I have 3 pistols in ACP and 2 revolvers in LC and I don't have a clue which cylinder I want to get when I get my ROA. Probably ACP, because ammo is cheaper across the board than LC ammo. Plus I have a couple hundred rounds of empty brass for ACP.
I would think the LC would be more accurate in the ROA than the ACP, purely based upon the distance the bullet has to travel to get to the cylinder mouth.

My question is, how hot of a .45 LC load can the ROA handle? If it's as heavily built as it looks, like a Blackhawk, it should be able to handle loads as hot as a .454 Casull.
 
I was told that the Kirst cylinder conversion was extremely strong. However, due to liability issues, no one in the right mind was willing to say what the limit was.
 
Understandable. The cylinder should be as strong as the factory cylinder, and something Rugers are known for is being hell-for-stout. That's why I have a GP100 and .44 Redhawk for my hard shooting magnum revolvers. They're tough to a fault. My GP100 has a pretty sweet trigger pull, too. Provided the replacement cyl is every bit as strong as the factory cyl, it should be able to handle loads equaling the .454 Casull.
Could just load them to .44 mag velocities. Larger diameter, heavier bullet at same velocity equals more power. Nuttin' wrong with that.

Even if you just shoot .45 ACP +P or .45 Colt +P loads through it, it will provide plenty of power, given the 5.5" or 7.5" Bbl.
 
If it's as heavily built as it looks, like a Blackhawk, it should be able to handle loads as hot as a .454 Casull.
Uh, what??? The .45 Blackhawk can be run up to 32,000psi, the .454 is rated at 65,000psi. If you wanna run a single action .45Colt at 32,000psi, buy a Blackhawk, not a conversion cylinder for a blackpowder pistol. :rolleyes:
 
Jaymo said:
My question is, how hot of a .45 LC load can the ROA handle? If it's as heavily built as it looks, like a Blackhawk, it should be able to handle loads as hot as a .454 Casull.

Well, seeing that the ROA is meant to be a BP firearm I only shoot BP through it. That is, my .45 Colt loads are stuffed with 40 grains of Goex FFFg. That's pretty much all you can stuff in a .45 Colt without using a sledge hammer to get it in there. :eek: As far as the unholy smokeless powder I save those types of .45 Colt loads for my revolvers meant to shoot the unholy stuff.

Anyhoo, did I mention I like .45 Colt over .45 ACP because I can stuff more holy black in it? :D
 
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