Road Trip To Laredo

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Ok, I have some holidays coming up and am thinking of taking a short road trip to Laredo. Problem is - across the border, there's a little war going on that sometimes spills across the border.

I WILL be carrying two guns at all times (unlike my normal carry routine) and am trying to decide among the following combinations:

* Mak / SP 101
* Glock 19 / Sp 101
* 1911 / SP 101
* 686+ / SP 101

As you can see, I'll have the Ruger as my backup....period. But what would be a good primary...I'm leaning toward my Glock (due to the standard cap mags - 2 extras will be carried) . I like guns that go "bang" everytime.

Its funny, but this is one of the few times discussion of CCW carry is more than academic as I'll be truly going into " Indian Country " (Nuevo Laredo across the border makes Iraq look like Canada).

Open to suggestions.
 
For Laredo, I would take an EBR and a shotgun also. Of the handguns you mentioned, take them all :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
If some is good, and more is better, then too much is just right. Take them all. Take EBR's.

I haven't heard that anything has spilled over into the US from Nuevo Laredo.

That needs to be stomped on. Hard.
 
You want to go to Laredo? :scrutiny:

The mess on the other side hasn't spilled yet to my knowledge. But there is no way you could get me to cross into Mexico right now. Even if I could carry there, I still wouldn't go.

As for your question: * 1911 / SP 101 - and 47 mags for the 1911.

Smoke
 
Do Not Try To Take Your Weapons Into Mexico

If you do, and you're caught by the Mexican Police, you will spend a long time in one of their jails. I apologize to you if you're already aware of this, but some people are not.
 
From that first CNN link:
Late Thursday, a group of armed men arriving in several vehicles used machine guns and explosives to attack a home on Mexicali street in southern Nuevo Laredo.

People inside the house are believed to have returned fire with powerful weapons of their own, triggering a massive shootout.

No one was injured and no arrests were made. It was unclear why the home was targeted, though witnesses said it was a safe house used by drug smugglers.

Fire from what witnesses said was a rocket launcher caused part of the home to collapse and the walls left standing were marked with hundreds of bullet holes. A vehicle had been driven into the door of the adjacent garage.

The battle left a residential street resembling a war zone. Grenades were strewn about the scene, and soldiers who moved in to recover them said they had been lobbed at the home and exploded.

A state policeman who asked not to be identified for fear of reprisals said investigators found the photographs of 14 municipal police officers and a list of officials "sentenced to death" at the home.

The officer didn't reveal the names of the officers but said each photo had their names and nicknames, what post they have at the police department and maps with their home addresses.

Authorities also recovered three AK-47 rifles, two handguns, a grenade, ski masks, and hundreds of bullets of different caliber.

Several hours after that shootout, assailants sprayed another house, this one in the Madero neighborhood, one of the richest areas in Nuevo Laredo, with more than 100 bullets from automatic weapons. No injuries were reported, nor arrests made.
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:scrutiny:

Could this have been some kind of 'training exercise'????
 
I am thinking that Laredo might be considered an unofficial "DMZ"...suprised the State Dept hasn't issued travel warnings to Laredo...


Back up weapon to carry to the DMZ?

Mebbe a Bradley or some such...perhaps the boys in El Paso might loan you one?

That one article sounds like somthing from Once upon a Time in Mexico...was Antonio Banderas spotted? :scrutiny:

Perhaps this is Mexico's answer to the Minutemen?
 
My father is a minister living in Laredo. He preaches at a mission on the South side of the border. I worry about him constantly but know that he doesn't walk alone.

If you need someone to show you around then let me know. He's a preacher but doesn't push his religion on you like some others might. A real down to earth kind of guy.

He has told me stories of the battles going on there. Not uncommon to hear gunfire on the Nuevo Laredo side of the border. I can think of better border towns to visit besided that war zone.
 
Don't go if you don't have to. I CCW and my rule is, if I think I might need a gun to go somewhere, I don't go. My 1911 is for places where I don't think I will need a gun. If I HAD to go somewhere where I thought I might need a weapon, then I would take a Battle Rifle. If you get caught in the middle of some of the crap that going on at the border, no handgun is going to save your ass!
 
You WANT to go to a war zone on vacation? :what:

If you HAVE to go, OK, but if it is an option go someplace else man.

My first rule of gunfighting -- when the shots start flying, be someplace else, drinking a cool adult beverage.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/ameri...t.ap/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/ameri...e.ap/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/28/am...cted/index.html

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&n...tnG=Search+News


It's definitely spilled over. I would avoid that place at all costs.
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None of those articles offer any examples of violence "spilling over" across the border into Nuevo Laredo. All crimes in those articles occurred in Nuevo Laredo.
Not saying Laredo doesn't have plenty of problems but those articles don't reinforce your point.

brad cook
 
The only reason to go there is to cross the border and get cheap Rx if you are an old fart.

Go to the Hill Country, Austin, San Antonio or someplace else for a TX vacation.

If you really think you have to carry more serious weaponery to go somewhere voluntarily - well, think this is an IQ test?
 
I remember hearing on FNC, that 40 or so Americans have been kidnapped and held for ransom over there.

I'm with those saying don't go.
 
This has all been very eye-opening. My wife's uncle has a home in Laredo, and the next time he visits there (from Mexico, where he actually lives) we are probably going to visit. He's in a very good section of town (which you might guess from the fact that this is a 2nd home), roughly 3 miles from the border.

While I'm not terribly worried, I'm definitely bringing the .45 and a couple spare mags, along with the 642 and a speeloader. I'm going to seriously consider throwing the AR in the trunk with a few spare 30-rounders, if things are still as bad then as they are now.
 
One of our agents just came back from Laredo (visiting family there) and said they will never go again. They said that everyone is afraid of being robbed or shot, and that the crime rate is horrendous. They said that everywhere they went there was just a generally bad feel to the whole place.

Brad
 
I used to go to Nuevo Laredo all the time, but it sounds like the place has changed a lot and should be avoided. It's too bad, because Nuevo Laredo was one of the better border towns, much nicer than Matamoros. I think the other towns such as Ciudad Acuna or Piedras Negras are still comparatively safe, so go there to pick up your prescription drugs over the counter or cheap tequila.

Now, just like before, never carry any guns or ammo into Mexico. Leave them in the car on the US side.
 
What is Del Rio / Ciudad Acuña like these days?
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It's not as bad as Laredo but the people are still a little freaked out because of the kidnappings that went on over in Nuevo Laredo and all of the related violence.
 
Not saying Laredo doesn't have plenty of problems but those articles don't reinforce your point.
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Okay maybe you are right I was thinking that the councilman that got assassinated was in Laredo but I guess he was in Nuevo Laredo. Still a dangerous place IMO.
 
I'd definitely carry... and watch your six.

As far as across the border.. sounds like there are AKs and hand grenades just laying around, shouldn't be hard to pick one up.
 
I am thinking that Laredo might be considered an unofficial "DMZ"...suprised the State Dept hasn't issued travel warnings to Laredo
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Doesn't really help that the politics of Washington are not really excited about that. NAFTA has created a situation which fuels the violence of the cartels for power in an area that sees so much exporting. With CAFTA just being signed, it wouldn't look good to say that well one of NAFTA's transport towns is a hell hole of violence.

Speaking of which, does anyone have that ratio on how many big rigs pass though nuevo laredo US bound uninspected?
 
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